Aura HD Aura HD VERY slow startup with microSD inserted

Major General · 09-07-2013, 09:26 AM

Have an Aura HD, 2.8.1 firmware, with a 16GB microSD.

I have about 2.5 GB of books in main memory, about 500MB on the microSD.

Ever since upgrading to 2.8.1 I've noticed that startup is VERY slow (3-5 minutes) with the microSD inserted. If I startup without it...just a few seconds.

Is there any solution to this? HELP!

jackastor · 09-07-2013, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major General

Have an Aura HD, 2.8.1 firmware, with a 16GB microSD.

I have about 2.5 GB of books in main memory, about 500MB on the microSD.

Ever since upgrading to 2.8.1 I've noticed that startup is VERY slow (3-5 minutes) with the microSD inserted. If I startup without it...just a few seconds.

Is there any solution to this? HELP!

Yes. Go back a few firmwares.

taming · 09-07-2013, 08:35 PM

I have the Aura HD running 2.81 with SD card installed and I do not have that problem. Try signing out of your account (which will give you a new DB) and signing in again.

DNSB · 09-08-2013, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taming

I have the Aura HD running 2.81 with SD card installed and I do not have that problem. Try signing out of your account (which will give you a new DB) and signing in again.

I suspect that is not going to help. As near as I can tell, the Aura HD since firmware 2.5.1 is rescanning the contents of the uSD card when it is powered on. The boot time improved with 2.6.1 and shortened further with 2.8.1 but the delay is still very noticeable. The more ebooks on the uSD card, the longer the boot delay.

Regards,
David

Major General · 09-08-2013, 06:46 AM

It's ridiculous...I only had around 150-200 books on it. Anyone think any chance Kobo gets around to fixing it?

taming · 09-08-2013, 07:58 AM

I misspoke. I am running a newer beta. That being said, I did not notice an issue with 2.81 either. It may be because I don't have a huge amount of books on the card--maybe 80 or so. I recently did a sign out (for a different reason) with the SD card out of the reader. When I inserted it, it took less than 30 seconds to do whatever it does with the books to put them in the new Db.

jackastor · 09-08-2013, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major General

It's ridiculous...I only had around 150-200 books on it. Anyone think any chance Kobo gets around to fixing it?

Your absolutely right. The problem once agains falls on the Kobo Developers who fix one thing and then break another. Its very depressing that Kobo Seems to take 1 step forward and then 2 steps back when they bring out new firmware.

regards

JAck

taming · 09-08-2013, 03:52 PM

I've never really understood how development works for Kobo. My observation suggests that if they are building out a feature, either on the back end or client facing, we often see FW releases with transitional development characteristics. Sure looks buggy when that happens.

There is an alternative. Kobo could release new FW once or twice a year that is more polished/less buggy.

jackastor · 09-08-2013, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taming

I've never really understood how development works for Kobo. My observation suggests that if they are building out a feature, either on the back end or client facing, we often see FW releases with transitional development characteristics. Sure looks buggy when that happens.

There is an alternative. Kobo could release new FW once or twice a year that is more polished/less buggy.

Or they could hire real programmers who take pride in the work they do and have more experience then what seems like the high school drop outs they currently seem to be using.

regards

PeterT · 09-08-2013, 06:08 PM

Dear Jack; for once and for all please stop these attacks on the staff at Kobo. You have ZERO idea of their skills, experience or anything at all..

You have ZERO idea of the guidelines they function under.

jackastor · 09-09-2013, 06:34 AM

.....

TechniSol · 09-09-2013, 04:48 PM

He may be a bit over the top, okay 100 feet over Kilimanjaro, but he has a point. To my knowledge the only information science connected entities that believe it is OK to break other things while fixing yet others, on an ongoing basis, are government subsidized.

Let's lay the cards on the table here, Kobo has all the grace of Chinese tablet manufacturers when it comes to maintaining/improving firmware -and I'm not altogether sure we aren't insulting the tablet manufacturers at times... Maybe it's being a one man show these days, maybe it's that I have top down control over the projects I elect to take on, but if I had to break things, while fixing others, and could not fix/manage the fallout, I'd have the good sense to do nothing! Were I being paid by others to do so, I'd live in daily fear of my job while getting better(sneakier?) as quickly as possible.

No disrespect to the developers, but there is a time for all good men to make a stand. If the marketing department is running things I suggest the programming department inquire just how soon the marketing department will be up to speed to take over further development, at the most crucial stage possible.(If you're going to fight, fight dirty and feel bad about it later if you must.) But, then not knowing the term or details of their employment agreements it's easier to say what I'd do. I wish the development team the best, but I'm not happy as a customer, and I'm a little ashamed as a developer when release after release leaves fundamental issues unaddressed while adding new window dressings. If I wanted new curtains, I'd buy them. I just want Kobo development to realize its full potential.

I, too, offer apologies to those more genteel than I.

Ken Maltby · 09-09-2013, 05:16 PM

https://github.com/kobolabs/Kobo-Reader

Giorgio has reported getting advice from the Kobo team, as well. I would agree though it seems that they are operating their development at a low level and appear driven, when there is any appearance of an effort on their part, in a direction that would appeal to marketing and sales, rather than toward a more functional reader. They appear less interested in fixing existing issues and more in creating a more marketable product.

Luck;
Ken

tlaine · 09-09-2013, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechniSol

To my knowledge the only information science connected entities that believe it is OK to break other things while fixing yet others, on an ongoing basis, are government subsidized.

You may have something there, both provincial and federal. Think I'll browse that subject

speakingtohe · 09-09-2013, 07:02 PM

At a risk of offending some very nice and intelligent people, I will have to man up and say I agree with Jack, Ken and technisol. Of course I am sure most already know that.

Helen

09-07-2013, 09:26 AM	#1
Major General Zealot Posts: 104 Karma: 21664 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Newest KF 10, iPad, iPad Mini	Aura HD VERY slow startup with microSD inserted Have an Aura HD, 2.8.1 firmware, with a 16GB microSD. I have about 2.5 GB of books in main memory, about 500MB on the microSD. Ever since upgrading to 2.8.1 I've noticed that startup is VERY slow (3-5 minutes) with the microSD inserted. If I startup without it...just a few seconds. Is there any solution to this? HELP!

09-09-2013, 06:34 AM	#11
jackastor Wizard Posts: 1,847 Karma: 3212428 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: iphone stanza, kobo touch,ASUS TF300,KOBO GLO, Kobo Aura HD, Kobo Mini	..... Last edited by jackastor; 09-09-2013 at 06:42 AM. Reason: duplicated post

09-09-2013, 04:48 PM	#12
TechniSol GranPohbah-Fezzes r cool! Posts: 1,056 Karma: 3151024 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Nook STRs, Kobo Touch, Kobo Glo	He may be a bit over the top, okay 100 feet over Kilimanjaro, but he has a point. To my knowledge the only information science connected entities that believe it is OK to break other things while fixing yet others, on an ongoing basis, are government subsidized. Let's lay the cards on the table here, Kobo has all the grace of Chinese tablet manufacturers when it comes to maintaining/improving firmware -and I'm not altogether sure we aren't insulting the tablet manufacturers at times... Maybe it's being a one man show these days, maybe it's that I have top down control over the projects I elect to take on, but if I had to break things, while fixing others, and could not fix/manage the fallout, I'd have the good sense to do nothing! Were I being paid by others to do so, I'd live in daily fear of my job while getting better(sneakier?) as quickly as possible. No disrespect to the developers, but there is a time for all good men to make a stand. If the marketing department is running things I suggest the programming department inquire just how soon the marketing department will be up to speed to take over further development, at the most crucial stage possible.(If you're going to fight, fight dirty and feel bad about it later if you must.) But, then not knowing the term or details of their employment agreements it's easier to say what I'd do. I wish the development team the best, but I'm not happy as a customer, and I'm a little ashamed as a developer when release after release leaves fundamental issues unaddressed while adding new window dressings. If I wanted new curtains, I'd buy them. I just want Kobo development to realize its full potential. I, too, offer apologies to those more genteel than I. Last edited by TechniSol; 09-09-2013 at 09:16 PM. Reason: reality intruded...

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09-07-2013, 08:35 PM	#3
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	I have the Aura HD running 2.81 with SD card installed and I do not have that problem. Try signing out of your account (which will give you a new DB) and signing in again.

09-08-2013, 06:46 AM	#5
Major General Zealot Posts: 104 Karma: 21664 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Newest KF 10, iPad, iPad Mini	It's ridiculous...I only had around 150-200 books on it. Anyone think any chance Kobo gets around to fixing it?

09-08-2013, 07:58 AM	#6
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	I misspoke. I am running a newer beta. That being said, I did not notice an issue with 2.81 either. It may be because I don't have a huge amount of books on the card--maybe 80 or so. I recently did a sign out (for a different reason) with the SD card out of the reader. When I inserted it, it took less than 30 seconds to do whatever it does with the books to put them in the new Db.

09-08-2013, 03:52 PM	#8
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	I've never really understood how development works for Kobo. My observation suggests that if they are building out a feature, either on the back end or client facing, we often see FW releases with transitional development characteristics. Sure looks buggy when that happens. There is an alternative. Kobo could release new FW once or twice a year that is more polished/less buggy.

09-08-2013, 06:08 PM	#10
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,167 Karma: 73448616 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Nexus 7, Clara, Touch, Tolino EPOS	Dear Jack; for once and for all please stop these attacks on the staff at Kobo. You have ZERO idea of their skills, experience or anything at all.. You have ZERO idea of the guidelines they function under.

09-09-2013, 05:16 PM	#13
Ken Maltby Wizard Posts: 4,465 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA,	https://github.com/kobolabs/Kobo-Reader Giorgio has reported getting advice from the Kobo team, as well. I would agree though it seems that they are operating their development at a low level and appear driven, when there is any appearance of an effort on their part, in a direction that would appeal to marketing and sales, rather than toward a more functional reader. They appear less interested in fixing existing issues and more in creating a more marketable product. Luck; Ken

09-09-2013, 07:02 PM	#15
speakingtohe Wizard Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet	At a risk of offending some very nice and intelligent people, I will have to man up and say I agree with Jack, Ken and technisol. Of course I am sure most already know that. Helen

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