epub files on two different devices? Sony and kobo?

gbloom182 · 12-30-2010, 09:25 PM

Hi, I'm new to the whole ebook thing. My wife already has a sony 505 and I want to know if I buy a kobo or Sony-650 can I read the same DRMed Epub files that she has on your sony and put it on one of these two? Or do I need to delete the book from her reader before the file will show up on mine?

Secondly... I got a nook as a present, did not like has glossy the casing was, its to distracting. All I want to do is read a book on a reader, no bells or whistles needed. With that said I'm a lefty but don't mind buttons on the right. Which would work best for me? THe kobo Wireless or the Sony-650? THanks!

wallcraft · 12-30-2010, 10:46 PM

A single AdobeID can support 6 PC/Mac's and 6 handheld Reading devices, so a PRS-505 and a PRS-650 (or Nook or Kobo) can load the same Adobe ePubs - buy once use on 6 devices. Note that this will also work with the Nook, but if you kept it and bought an ePub from B&N it would not work on the PRS-505 (because Sony, not B&N, has locked their devices out from B&N ePubs).

I don't know which of the Kobo and PRS-650 would suit you better. One issue with the Kobo is that it has the most extreme vendor lock in of any ePub-based ebook store. They have some ebooks that you can't download as ePubs, and their PC app won't read ePubs from other sites. The same is likely true of their iPhone and Android apps. Overall, it isn't a good choice for a multi-vendor reading family.

SameerH · 12-31-2010, 12:28 PM

Hi Wallcraft,

Both our Android apps and iphone apps will read any unencrypted ePubs. This functionality is not on our Desktop application yet, but it will be coming soon (not enough hours in the day!

). Same with the Kobo eReader, you can drag and drop any unencrypted ePub onto it and it will read it.

For encrypted content from 3rd parties, it's a bit different. Right now only the Kobo eReader supports Adobe DRM'd content, and we're looking into enabling support for Adobe DRM on our other platforms.

Hope that clarifies.

Gbloom182,

If you get a Kobo eReader, you should be able to authorize and load DRMed ePub files onto it through Adobe Digital Editions as long as you have not run out activations (It allows 6 devices per ID as Wallcraft has pointed out).

Hope that helps in your purchase decision. Good news is that regardless of which of those devices you choose, you will have access to all the content and deals from kobo.com.

pholy · 12-31-2010, 01:05 PM

Thanks, Sameer - If I understand it properly, a chart would be like this:

Kepub from Kobo store
- eReader: yes
- phone app: yes
- desktop app: yes
Clean epub from anywhere
- eReader: yes
- phone app: yes
- desktop app: coming
ADE epub from some store
- eReader: yes
- phone apps: maybe
- desktop apps: maybe

Is this right as of 31 Dec 2010?

Oh, one other point: Most of the books in the Kobo store are available as Kepub and as ADE epub, although I'm not sure of the percentages.

susan_cassidy · 12-31-2010, 02:42 PM

There are already ways to read an unencrypted ePub on a pc. Adobe has a reader, Firefox has an add-on that is pretty nice, and I imagine there are others. I believe that Calibre has a built-in ePub reader, too.

pholy · 12-31-2010, 07:40 PM

Susan - You are right, of course. My "table" was meant to show the abilities of the Kobo software only. But... "tables" in forum responses are sort of like dancing bears - a bit clumsy - so I left out that bit of useful information

SameerH · 01-04-2011, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pholy

Thanks, Sameer - If I understand it properly, a chart would be like this:

Kepub from Kobo store
- eReader: yes
- phone app: yes
- desktop app: yes
Clean epub from anywhere
- eReader: yes
- phone app: yes
- desktop app: coming
ADE epub from some store
- eReader: yes
- phone apps: maybe
- desktop apps: maybe

Is this right as of 31 Dec 2010?

Oh, one other point: Most of the books in the Kobo store are available as Kepub and as ADE epub, although I'm not sure of the percentages.

If, by 'clean' epub you mean unencrypted ePub, yes that's pretty accurate.

If a book on Kobo.com does not have an Adobe ePub available for it, it's quite likely a mistake (IIRC this may not be true for Internet Archive books, I will check). So please let me or support know which book it is and we'll fix it.

Canorka · 01-08-2011, 08:27 PM

Hey Sameer,

Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison does not have an Adobe DRM ePub download option. I took this up with support and they claimed this was not a mistake, but I still find it unusual. Maybe you would have better luck than me on this one?

Thanks!

SameerH · 01-09-2011, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canorka

Hey Sameer,

Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison does not have an Adobe DRM ePub download option. I took this up with support and they claimed this was not a mistake, but I still find it unusual. Maybe you would have better luck than me on this one?

Thanks!

Looking into it. Don't see a reason for this one not to have one.

Canorka · 01-09-2011, 06:38 PM

Thanks man! Appreciate it.

12-30-2010, 09:25 PM	#1
gbloom182 Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 646 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: kobo	epub files on two different devices? Sony and kobo? Hi, I'm new to the whole ebook thing. My wife already has a sony 505 and I want to know if I buy a kobo or Sony-650 can I read the same DRMed Epub files that she has on your sony and put it on one of these two? Or do I need to delete the book from her reader before the file will show up on mine? Secondly... I got a nook as a present, did not like has glossy the casing was, its to distracting. All I want to do is read a book on a reader, no bells or whistles needed. With that said I'm a lefty but don't mind buttons on the right. Which would work best for me? THe kobo Wireless or the Sony-650? THanks!

12-30-2010, 10:46 PM	#2
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	A single AdobeID can support 6 PC/Mac's and 6 handheld Reading devices, so a PRS-505 and a PRS-650 (or Nook or Kobo) can load the same Adobe ePubs - buy once use on 6 devices. Note that this will also work with the Nook, but if you kept it and bought an ePub from B&N it would not work on the PRS-505 (because Sony, not B&N, has locked their devices out from B&N ePubs). I don't know which of the Kobo and PRS-650 would suit you better. One issue with the Kobo is that it has the most extreme vendor lock in of any ePub-based ebook store. They have some ebooks that you can't download as ePubs, and their PC app won't read ePubs from other sites. The same is likely true of their iPhone and Android apps. Overall, it isn't a good choice for a multi-vendor reading family. Last edited by wallcraft; 12-30-2010 at 10:49 PM.

12-31-2010, 01:05 PM	#4
pholy Booklegger Posts: 1,801 Karma: 7999816 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Device: BeBook(1 & 2010), PEZ, PRS-505, Kobo BT, PRS-T1, Playbook, Kobo Touch	Thanks, Sameer - If I understand it properly, a chart would be like this: Kepub from Kobo store eReader: yes phone app: yes desktop app: yes Clean epub from anywhere eReader: yes phone app: yes desktop app: coming ADE epub from some store eReader: yes phone apps: maybe desktop apps: maybe Is this right as of 31 Dec 2010? Oh, one other point: Most of the books in the Kobo store are available as Kepub and as ADE epub, although I'm not sure of the percentages.

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12-31-2010, 12:28 PM	#3
SameerH Product Manager Posts: 487 Karma: 590887 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Aura H2O	Hi Wallcraft, Both our Android apps and iphone apps will read any unencrypted ePubs. This functionality is not on our Desktop application yet, but it will be coming soon (not enough hours in the day! ). Same with the Kobo eReader, you can drag and drop any unencrypted ePub onto it and it will read it. For encrypted content from 3rd parties, it's a bit different. Right now only the Kobo eReader supports Adobe DRM'd content, and we're looking into enabling support for Adobe DRM on our other platforms. Hope that clarifies. Gbloom182, If you get a Kobo eReader, you should be able to authorize and load DRMed ePub files onto it through Adobe Digital Editions as long as you have not run out activations (It allows 6 devices per ID as Wallcraft has pointed out). Hope that helps in your purchase decision. Good news is that regardless of which of those devices you choose, you will have access to all the content and deals from kobo.com.

12-31-2010, 02:42 PM	#5
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	There are already ways to read an unencrypted ePub on a pc. Adobe has a reader, Firefox has an add-on that is pretty nice, and I imagine there are others. I believe that Calibre has a built-in ePub reader, too.

12-31-2010, 07:40 PM	#6
pholy Booklegger Posts: 1,801 Karma: 7999816 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Device: BeBook(1 & 2010), PEZ, PRS-505, Kobo BT, PRS-T1, Playbook, Kobo Touch	Susan - You are right, of course. My "table" was meant to show the abilities of the Kobo software only. But... "tables" in forum responses are sort of like dancing bears - a bit clumsy - so I left out that bit of useful information

01-08-2011, 08:27 PM	#8
Canorka Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 4254 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Norway Device: Kobo Touch	Hey Sameer, Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison does not have an Adobe DRM ePub download option. I took this up with support and they claimed this was not a mistake, but I still find it unusual. Maybe you would have better luck than me on this one? Thanks!

01-09-2011, 06:38 PM	#10
Canorka Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 4254 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Norway Device: Kobo Touch	Thanks man! Appreciate it.

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