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Old 08-31-2010, 04:44 PM   #46
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My point was, that the OS in modern Smartphones is more capable than most people realize. Not all of them are created equal of course, but essentially the biggest limitation on SmartPhone O.S. is the interface that is required to be useful on a 3-5" screen.

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I will agree that the modern phone OS is very capable, and usually very fast. However, the biggest limitation is actually the fact they can so easily lock them down. They can decide what applications you can or can’t install. They can easily determine what content you can or can’t get onto the device, and they can decide how the content is delivered. There are many other examples, but my point is that these limitations are designed-in, and are completely unacceptable. A full-blown OS device works like it should. You can copy/paste content at will, to/from the device. You can install software of your choice, from anywhere you decide to get it from.
The difference is simply this: either they decide for you, or you decide for yourself. I will decide for myself...
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:03 PM   #47
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I will agree that the modern phone OS is very capable, and usually very fast. However, the biggest limitation is actually the fact they can so easily lock them down. They can decide what applications you can or can’t install. They can easily determine what content you can or can’t get onto the device, and they can decide how the content is delivered. There are many other examples, but my point is that these limitations are designed-in, and are completely unacceptable. A full-blown OS device works like it should. You can copy/paste content at will, to/from the device. You can install software of your choice, from anywhere you decide to get it from.
The difference is simply this: either they decide for you, or you decide for yourself. I will decide for myself...
True, but don't think that Apple and Microsoft probably haven't wished they could do the same thing for their desktop O.S.

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Old 08-31-2010, 05:50 PM   #48
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True, but don't think that Apple and Microsoft probably haven't wished they could do the same thing for their desktop O.S.

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I agree 100% on this one, if they thought they could get away with that they would! Making hundreds of billions of dollars just isn't enough it seems, more more more.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:34 PM   #49
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I think there will be different devices, but I can see a convergence to one or two main ebook formats.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:00 PM   #50
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True, but don't think that Apple and Microsoft probably haven't wished they could do the same thing for their desktop O.S.

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Actually, Apple has. Look at Adobe Flash for starters.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:42 PM   #51
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Actually, Apple has. Look at Adobe Flash for starters.
Since when can Flash not be used on the Mac OS for desktops?
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:43 AM   #52
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Since when can Flash not be used on the Mac OS for desktops?
I think he was referring to flash not being supported on iPhone and iPads.... http://www.apple.com/ca/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:37 AM   #53
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I think he was referring to flash not being supported on iPhone and iPads.... http://www.apple.com/ca/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
Maybe, but I was referring specifically to the established, desktop OSes.

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Old 09-01-2010, 12:02 PM   #54
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I do think a lot of E-ink devices will be squeezed out. How many are there currently on the market 12? 15? I very much doubt sales levels will continue for all of them. SO we may one day see a VHS/Betamax verdict to a reduced range of devices. But I don't see tablets replacing E-ink, as above.
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:22 AM   #55
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How to - games for ereaders?

Hi. I'm new to ereaders, and am very interested in finding the best and easiest way to add games to mine. Can you give me any hints?
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:43 AM   #56
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Do you think converged devices like the iPad will turn dedicated eReaders into extinction?
Nope. If I had to read books on a computer, I'd never get any reading done. It has to be a dedicated device, either a p-book or an e-book reader.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:28 PM   #58
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Hi. I'm new to ereaders, and am very interested in finding the best and easiest way to add games to mine. Can you give me any hints?
E-ink screens don't refresh fast enough for most games. You'll find some word games and such, but if you're looking on it as a mobile game platform, you'll be sorely disappointed.

There are a lot of multifunction devices around, but when it comes to dedicated ereaders, well, that's where the "dedicated" comes in.
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I have no doubts that there will be a day where there will be no hardware or software advantages in having a dedicated e-reader, however, a dedicated e-reader will always be cheaper, and there will always be people that find a multifunctional device to be far too distracting to get any reading done.

A cheap distraction free dedicated e-reader will always have a market.
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I don't think that any converged device will replace a dedicated e-reader for the 10% of the population who are hardcore readers. People who read *a lot* will demand the best experience.

However, as with smartphone cameras being good enough for casual photographers, casual readers will probably find converged devices good enough for the occasional read. I think that this is already the case, in fact.

I may be wrong, but I don't think that Pixel Qi screens will lead to convergence since I don't think it will be a great seller with people not really interested in e-readers. Those individuals will want whatever screen makes the best tablet.

What I think will happen is that e-reader prices will, eventually, drop to around $40 for a 6" screen, where they will essentially be a commodity.
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