08-20-2009, 01:41 PM | #1 |
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Brooklyn Library restricts access to Tin Tin book
Sigh. Is it Banned Books Week yet?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090820/...restricts_book I had a friend once who used to pass out buttons that read, "No Censorship. No Exceptions." I'm for that. |
08-20-2009, 01:52 PM | #2 |
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The LA Times had a nice editorial on the NYPL & censorship -- http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla...gone-gone.html
And the NY Times covered not just the book, but the NYPL's (and other libraries') overall approach to controversial books -- http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...hat-offend/?hp |
08-20-2009, 03:32 PM | #3 |
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I have never understood censorship from a country that has the freedom of speach as nr 1 rule.
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08-20-2009, 03:59 PM | #4 |
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It's an odd practise that libraries keep certain books in their collection away from the general public like this.
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08-20-2009, 04:07 PM | #5 | |
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08-20-2009, 04:13 PM | #6 |
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You're totally right when it comes to people not really being for free speech. They hate it, until someone tells them they can't say something. People always think they know better
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08-20-2009, 04:32 PM | #8 |
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It's a 1930 comic. Congo was a Belgian republic. Hergé was 23. He hadn't traveled, so his information sources probably reflect those of the people he hung out with or popular opinion at the time. I am not in any way defending his work nor do I condemn it; I am trying to establish some context.
Land of the Soviets (Russians), The Blue Lotus (Chinese), Tin Tin in America (Native Americans), Cigars of the Pharoah (Arabs and Egyptians), all these contain pretty stereotypical portrayals of various cultures. Was there malicious intent behind it? I don't know, but I don't think so. I read these as a kid. I enjoyed them. I didn't pick up on any of these supposedly racist overtones. Did these stories shape my image of an entire race/country of people? Not particularly; or at least, not that I am aware of. At the same time, Hergé isn't exactly free of controversy. The current controversy isn't new, and there was that whole WW2 thing. (Congo also gets crap from the animal rights groups for, um, blowing up a Rhino with TNT (!) and shooting a monkey and wearing its skin to fool other monkeys; we all know that cartoon violence involving animals leads to animal cruelty ). He popularized/pioneered the ligne claire style, which I love. This library thing seems overkill. "a vault-like room, accessed by appointment only"? You can walk in and grab a copy of "Mein Kampf" anytime but this comic is treated like unstable plutonium. Bizarre. PC madness. Last edited by acidzebra; 08-20-2009 at 04:42 PM. |
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08-20-2009, 06:33 PM | #11 |
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08-20-2009, 07:16 PM | #12 |
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That's exactly right. A lot of people are so oblivious to the importance of free speech in a democratic society. Without free speech, democracy cannot exist. We already have a dubious democratic system with far too much interference by the corporation and the church. We have to guard free speech.
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08-20-2009, 08:32 PM | #13 |
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Censorship is very general that's why it really tends to interfere with our freedom of speech. they should be much clearer about how and why they do it.
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08-20-2009, 08:45 PM | #14 |
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Yeah! Stop saying all those vile things that make me uncomfortable!
You should be stopped, really! :P |
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It resumes a well-known controversy in France, Belgium and elsewhere. It's true that non-white people is usually depicted as mentally simple in several Tintin books as opposed to the insinuated superiority of white race. Personally, as an adult (?) I think that it is clearly racially offensive. I am pretty sure that such content could not be published today. I read too a lot of Tintin as a kid (in French), but I was not able to make such a judgement being so young. Actually (and not proudly), I remember that I was dumb enough to smile with the way that black people was supposed to speak in french. I hate censorship, but the fact that racism is rather insinuated in Tintin and these comics are supposed to be read by kids makes the case completely different as compared to "mein Kampf". |
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