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Old 05-21-2014, 12:31 AM   #16
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I highly doubt it's millions. A lot of people here on MR sideload stuff using various methods, but I'd venture to say that the average Kindle user buys their books from Amazon and live happily within that ecosystem without venturing outside of it. Can't say how many who do sideload or use the PDS care about syncing let alone being able to reset it (I've used Kindle's since 2008 and used the PDS half a dozen times in all that time and read many hundreds of sideloaded books). That's not to minimize the issue as I'm sure there are plenty of folks who do have the same problem.

I'd suggest making your feelings known to kindle-feedback@amazon.com at least it seems to have been a good avenue for change being made to features in the past.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:41 AM   #17
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So you're saying that info is stored on whispersync's server and not the device or the app? If so then there's no chance of fixing it. All of my personal documents go through the server (not side-loaded) because it's the only way they'll sync across my other devices.
The "sync" part of whispersync would be the indication that the info is stored in both places.

Assuming you had NOT synced the device, deleting the .sdr folder would wipe the data before Amazon got its grubby little paws on it.

If the data had synced, then Amazon assumes you lost the data and "helpfully" restores it for you.
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Ok, so maybe tens of thousands? At the very least, thousands. There are millions of Kindle owners, but the vast majority don't use forums, so it's hard to gauge. But even if only ONE percent of ONE million kindle owners purchased books outside of Amazon, that's still ten thousand. Am I the only one of them who uses whispersync?

Granted, a lot of people probably side-load, but surely this must be an issue for more than just a few isolated users.
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:04 AM   #19
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The "sync" part of whispersync would be the indication that the info is stored in both places.
I know, I guess I was just hoping that the deletion of the folder synced to the server as well, and would reset the whole thing.

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Assuming you had NOT synced the device, deleting the .sdr folder would wipe the data before Amazon got its grubby little paws on it.
It did work before I synced it. The problem is, I need to sync between the two devices I read on, which can't be done without syncing.
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Go to the first page on both devises and see if it works (on the kindle you can still do what i said before). Dont press "sync and check for items"

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No you will not. You will lose the kindle's offline record of the annotations data.

When next connecting to WiFi, it will/should redownload all that data... although if the book was sideloaded and didn't go through the Personal Documents service, you would've been right.
As long as you have one device, amazon records your new place, as the last page record. but if you have two devices amazon records the furthest current location on any device. I only have one device so I'm not sure about the second statement.
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"last page read" means time wise not further in the book
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:18 AM   #23
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"last page read" means time wise not further in the book
You're confusing two different things.

The Kindle remembers what page you're currently on in a book. That's stored locally on the Kindle, and has nothing to do with syncing.

What's being discussed in this thread is not that, but the fact that Whispersync stores on Amazon's servers (if you have it enabled) the further point you've reached in the book on any device you've read it on, and will move the reading position to that point if you open the book on a different device to the one that you were most recently reading on.

These are separate and unrelated features.
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and therefore?
and therefore talking about "last page read" is of no particular relevance in a thread which is discussing furthest page read, a totally different thing.
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What's being discussed in this thread is not that, but the fact that Whispersync stores on Amazon's servers (if you have it enabled) the further point you've reached in the book on any device you've read it on, and will move the reading position to that point if you open the book on a different device to the one that you were most recently reading on.
It's not "the further point you've reached in the book" rather "the further point you're at now in the book"(on any device)

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It's not "the further point you've reached in the book" rather "the further point you're at now in the book"(on any device)
No, it's not; it's the furthest point you've ever got to on any device you've read the book on. That can cause problems if you jump to an endnote at the end of the book, because that then becomes the further page read location. That's why Amazon added the facility to reset it to the "Manager My Kindle" page.
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i surender i got mixtup between "sync and check for items" and "sync to last page read" so i didnt have any problems going backwards and checking for items.
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Dont[/B] press "sync and check for items"
You don't understand. I have to sync. It's the whole reason for this thread.

If I don't sync, then I can't download any new books.

But more importantly, the whole reason I started this thread is because I switch back and forth between my Paperwhite (at home) and the iPhone app (when I'm out). So I need to be able to sync each one to pick up where the other left off.

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"last page read" means time wise not further in the book
Not true. Whispersync saves the furthest page (distance) not the last (most recent) page.
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You don't understand. I have to sync. It's the whole reason for this thread.

If I don't sync, then I can't download any new books.
Not true. Downloading new books is a separate process to syncing reading location between devices. You can switch off location syncing from the "Manage Your Kindle" page on the Amazon site, while still retaining the ability to download books.
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