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Old 08-13-2010, 07:42 PM   #1
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Best Serif font for KDX PDF? Ugly anti-aliasing

Dear All,

I am creating my PDFs from word and even when getting a decent screen font size very close to a paper-printed 12 (see PS below for my custom page size) I notice the anti-aliasing with MS Times New Roman i.e., the anti-aliasing does not look good. Has anyone tried other serif fonts? I heard something about block serifs working well, but I don't know which of the standard MS fonts are block serifs.
Suggestions appreaciated!


PS: I am using a custom page size 18.8 x 13.2 cm - I printed a PDF black page and measured the resulting black square on the screen, and that's what I got. It works very well - although a standard A5 size wouldn't be too bad probably.
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:14 PM   #2
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Hi, sorry - the font that didn't look good is Garamond, not Times New Roman. I started experimenting - TNR looks much better (see the attached PDF), better than the others in any case. It also looks much better when "printed" at 300 dpi than with 150 DPI, 600 DPI does not seem to make a difference.

Any font suggestions?

I am also attaching my custom size template in word 2007. Before you start screaming "mobi-epub" etc., these are technical documents for which I have a source, but do not convert nicely to anything but PDF - hence the need to create the best possible PDF for the kindle screen

I hope much of this discussion will not make sense with the K3 new PDF settings, but I think Amazon has still a lot to learn (from apple, say?) about screen font rendering.

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Old 08-13-2010, 08:17 PM   #3
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:21 PM   #4
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I hope much of this discussion will not make sense with the K3 new PDF settings, but I think Amazon has still a lot to learn (from apple, say?) about screen font rendering.

Thanks!
There is hope: Amazon has a job listing for someone to manage their Typography team in Cupertino (where they develop Kindle). So know that they at least have such a team! Maybe they'll steal somebody from Apple, or Adobe...

However in the case of improved PDF text display on Kindle, you have to talk to Adobe. It's their SDK that is getting used by Amazon. I doubt Amazon has much control over it (maybe the contrast adjustment they're adding in K3 will help though).
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:57 PM   #5
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Thanks. Rockwell, the only (AFAIK) slab serif font in my MS Word, looks quite good, similar to the built in Kindle font, but a bit more (too) "boldy"...
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Try the default font (Caecilia) if you have it (or pull it from your Kindle).

Another nice slab serif is Museo Slab from the exljbris foundry.

But, yeah, full serif probably won't look very good, unless they're heavily tweaked to play nice with Grayscale AA.

Don't know about slab serifs bundled with MS products, since I don't use them .
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Thanks - how do you pull fonts from kindle...?
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:33 PM   #8
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I happen to like Charis and Fontin. Give both of those a try. They are freely available on the net.
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@guiyoforward: The fonts hack do a backup of the original fonts. You can also check the attachments of the Font hack thread in the dev subforum, they might be there somewhere .
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thqanks to both!
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