Import files in order

phossler · 12-26-2014, 10:00 AM

I know it's in the manual, but I can't find it again (sorry)

I have a folder of list of html files (part1, part2 ... part10, part11, ... part33)that I wanted to build a book with, but the import order seems to be almost random

I recall that as I was reading the manual there was a way (toc file maybe) to provide an import order.

Could someone please provide a link?

I guess I couldn't come up with the right search terms (possibly due to OD-ing on eggnog???)

Thanks

theducks · 12-26-2014, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phossler

I know it's in the manual, but I can't find it again (sorry)

I have a folder of list of html files (part1, part2 ... part10, part11, ... part33)that I wanted to build a book with, but the import order seems to be almost random

I recall that as I was reading the manual there was a way (toc file maybe) to provide an import order.

Could someone please provide a link?

I guess I couldn't come up with the right search terms (possibly due to OD-ing on eggnog???)

Thanks

Sigil has a 'Sort' (selected files) on the context menu. Maybe Kovid had a reason?

BUT
Your files would still (partially) fail because of ASCII sort rules
Part1
Part10
Part2
instead of
Part01
Part02
Part10

signum · 12-26-2014, 12:36 PM

Here it is:

http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq....specific-order

phossler · 12-26-2014, 01:28 PM

@signum -- yes, that was the reference I had seen before and vaguely recollected. I have to figure out how to use it

@theducks -- had I known the work I was making for myself, I would have planned ahead better

From the manual ...

Quote:

Note:
By default, when adding HTML files, calibre follows links in the files in depth first order. This means that if file A.html links to B.html and C.html and D.html, but B.html also links to D.html, then the files will be in the order A.html, B.html, D.html, C.html. If instead you want the order to be A.html, B.html, C.html, D.html then you must tell calibre to add your files in breadth first order. Do this by going to Preferences->Plugins and customizing the HTML to ZIP plugin.

So even with the PI option checked, the Sort Order logic would still order them as Part1, Part10, Part11, ..., Part2, Part20, ...

So the 'order' file is the only way

Correct?

theducks · 12-26-2014, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phossler

@signum -- yes, that was the reference I had seen before and vaguely recollected. I have to figure out how to use it

@theducks -- had I known the work I was making for myself, I would have planned ahead better

From the manual ...

So even with the PI option checked, the Sort Order logic would still order them as Part1, Part10, Part11, ..., Part2, Part20, ...

Correct?

Correct

Maybe you can use a file renamer like metamorpose, to pad the leading 0's

signum · 12-29-2014, 06:42 PM

Sort Order and Depth-FIrst

I recently did some experiments with Calibre to see what actually happens when you specify an index file referencing several other html files. I had several questions:

1. Does Calibre change the order of included files?

I created 5 html files named part_1.html, part_2.html, part_10.html, part_11.html and part_20.html. Each file looks like:

Code:

<html><body>
  <p>This is file 1.</p>
</body></html>

with the "1" replaced with 2, 10, 11 or 20, as appropriate for each file.

I tried to create an epub from just these five files:

Code:

ebook-convert *.html foo.epub

but calibre wouldn't take it. So, following Kovid's recommendation in the documentation, I created an index file that looks like:

Code:

<html><body>
  <p><a href=file_1.html>file 1</a></p>
  <p><a href=file_2.html>file 2</a></p>
  <p><a href=file_10.html>file 10</a></p>
  <p><a href=file_11.html>file 11</a></p>
  <p><a href=file_20.html>file 20</a></p>
</body></html>

and created an epub:

Code:

ebook-convert index.html foo.epub

The order of the files in the epub was 1, 2, 10, 11, 20, just as in the index.html. From this, I conclude that calibre doesn't just bunch all the references together and then retrieve them in sort order. Further, there's no need to rename the files with leading zeros before single digits.

2. Well, just when depth-first order important?

Following Kovid's example, I changed file_2.html to include a link to file_11.html and made an epub out of this. The sequence of files turned out to be 1, 2, 11, 10, 20, just as Kovid warned it would be. The difference here is that there was a forward reference (in file_2.html) that needed to be chased down first.

3. What happens if you reverse the files in index.html?

I arranged the links in index.html to be in reverse order. File_2.html still linked to file_11.html, but now it's a backward link. Made an epub out of this and the order was 20, 11, 10, 2, 1 without any need for a depth-first search.

Conclusions:

Simple forward links at the top (index) level behave nicely, coming out in the same order you list them. Actually, it's a depth-first search where the depth is 1.
Forward links at the second (or lower) levels will include files in depth-first order.
Backward links don't change the include order at all.

12-26-2014, 10:00 AM	#1
phossler Wizard Posts: 1,071 Karma: 412718 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Valley Forge, PA, USA Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Import files in order I know it's in the manual, but I can't find it again (sorry) I have a folder of list of html files (part1, part2 ... part10, part11, ... part33)that I wanted to build a book with, but the import order seems to be almost random I recall that as I was reading the manual there was a way (toc file maybe) to provide an import order. Could someone please provide a link? I guess I couldn't come up with the right search terms (possibly due to OD-ing on eggnog???) Thanks

12-29-2014, 06:42 PM	#6
signum Zealot Posts: 119 Karma: 64428 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: none	Sort Order and Depth-FIrst I recently did some experiments with Calibre to see what actually happens when you specify an index file referencing several other html files. I had several questions: 1. Does Calibre change the order of included files? I created 5 html files named part_1.html, part_2.html, part_10.html, part_11.html and part_20.html. Each file looks like: Code: <html><body> <p>This is file 1.</p> </body></html> with the "1" replaced with 2, 10, 11 or 20, as appropriate for each file. I tried to create an epub from just these five files: Code: ebook-convert *.html foo.epub but calibre wouldn't take it. So, following Kovid's recommendation in the documentation, I created an index file that looks like: Code: <html><body> <p><a href=file_1.html>file 1</a></p> <p><a href=file_2.html>file 2</a></p> <p><a href=file_10.html>file 10</a></p> <p><a href=file_11.html>file 11</a></p> <p><a href=file_20.html>file 20</a></p> </body></html> and created an epub: Code: ebook-convert index.html foo.epub The order of the files in the epub was 1, 2, 10, 11, 20, just as in the index.html. From this, I conclude that calibre doesn't just bunch all the references together and then retrieve them in sort order. Further, there's no need to rename the files with leading zeros before single digits. 2. Well, just when depth-first order important? Following Kovid's example, I changed file_2.html to include a link to file_11.html and made an epub out of this. The sequence of files turned out to be 1, 2, 11, 10, 20, just as Kovid warned it would be. The difference here is that there was a forward reference (in file_2.html) that needed to be chased down first. 3. What happens if you reverse the files in index.html? I arranged the links in index.html to be in reverse order. File_2.html still linked to file_11.html, but now it's a backward link. Made an epub out of this and the order was 20, 11, 10, 2, 1 without any need for a depth-first search. Conclusions: Simple forward links at the top (index) level behave nicely, coming out in the same order you list them. Actually, it's a depth-first search where the depth is 1. Forward links at the second (or lower) levels will include files in depth-first order. Backward links don't change the include order at all.

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12-26-2014, 12:36 PM	#3
signum Zealot Posts: 119 Karma: 64428 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: none	Here it is: http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq....specific-order

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