The Hobbit at Feedbooks

Moe The Cat · 12-29-2008, 08:41 PM

The Hobbit is now available at Feedbooks. I didn't know it was in the public domain or available as an ebook. Did I miss something?

zelda_pinwheel · 12-29-2008, 08:44 PM

huh, it looks like the real one too (from the first few pages). it was only added today, you spotted it fast... i recommend you signal this to Hadrien.

Moe The Cat · 12-29-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

I recommend you signal this to Hadrien.

I've sent Hadrien a message, but it looks like the link is already down. Hadrien must have caught it himself.

They had Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War", Daphne De Maurier's "Jamaica Inn" and J. D. Salinger's "The Catcher In The Rye" as well. All of them seem to be down now.

Maybe someone who didn't know the rules uploaded them without realizing his mistake.

zelda_pinwheel · 12-29-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Moe The Cat

I've sent Hadrien a message, but it looks like the link is already down. Hadrien must have caught it himself.

They had Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War", Daphne De Maurier's "Jamaica Inn" and J. D. Salinger's "The Catcher In The Rye" as well. All of them seem to be down now.

Maybe someone who didn't know the rules uploaded them without realizing his mistake.

all of that is quite probable, i think hadrien keeps a close eye on uploads. and someone could easily have uploaded them without realising it was not allowed. you've got an eagle eye though !

Moe The Cat · 12-29-2008, 09:03 PM

Those hobbits are so small! They're difficult to spot, "since they have become rare and shy of the Big People, as they call us."

Sorry, I couldn't resist quoting Professor Tolkien on that one ...

HarryT · 12-30-2008, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Moe The Cat

Maybe someone who didn't know the rules uploaded them without realizing his mistake.

Do you REALLY think it was "accidental"? I'm afraid that you have more faith in human nature than I do. I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that the uploaded knew damned well what he or she was doing.

ErwinOtten · 12-30-2008, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Do you REALLY think it was "accidental"? I'm afraid that you have more faith in human nature than I do. I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that the uploaded knew damned well what he or she was doing.

Hmmm, why would he/she do that then? When you know what you're doing you know your content wil be deleted in a flash. People who want to do that make a torrent of the books and go on a peer2peer network.
I can't see why they would upload on feedbooks........

HarryT · 12-30-2008, 04:46 AM

I think the simple answer is "because they can", Erwin. This isn't a case of someone downloading "legal" eBooks from somewhere and thinking "wouldn't it be nice of me to share these with others". All the books concerned had to have been illegally downloaded from somewhere, and that takes a deliberate act of will - it's not something that one does "accidentally".

ErwinOtten · 12-30-2008, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I think the simple answer is "because they can", Erwin. This isn't a case of someone downloading "legal" eBooks from somewhere and thinking "wouldn't it be nice of me to share these with others". All the books concerned had to have been illegally downloaded from somewhere, and that takes a deliberate act of will - it's not something that one does "accidentally".

But of course it's a deliberate act of will. But I sincerely doubt if a average 17 year old knows enough of copyright-laws (for books that is, I'm sure they all know it's illegal to download music and/or films) to know he shouldn't put a copy of 'The Hobbit' in the public domain.

But maybe you're right and I'm just naïve in that..........

HarryT · 12-30-2008, 04:59 AM

... or perhaps I'm just old and cynical

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Donnageddon · 12-30-2008, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

... or perhaps I'm just old and cynical

.

Perish the thought! You are not that cynical!

- Donn, who has just dug himself out of a mountain of white fluffy crap* and a 10 day lack of Internet service and cable TV**.

* in my experience "white fluffy crap" (ie. snow) is called <expletive deleted> especially when it comes in seemingly unending amounts.

** I would like to say I am a better man for going without TV and the Internet for 10 days, but I can't. It just made me more a curmudgeon than HarryT***

*** I apologize Harry.

mtravellerh · 12-30-2008, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I think the simple answer is "because they can", Erwin. This isn't a case of someone downloading "legal" eBooks from somewhere and thinking "wouldn't it be nice of me to share these with others". All the books concerned had to have been illegally downloaded from somewhere, and that takes a deliberate act of will - it's not something that one does "accidentally".

Hadrien has two automatic blocks to prevent copyrighted books to be uploaded. First is by autor's death date, second is by publishing year of the book. You have to cheat on at least one to be able to upload such a book. Plus then the books will be manually checked before they are published.

I am astonished that those books could be uploaded at all.

mtravellerh · 12-30-2008, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

... or perhaps I'm just old and cynical

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That makes two of us, then. How likely is THAT?

Jellby · 12-30-2008, 06:05 AM

I think "The Hobbit" was first published in 1937, that's 71 years ago... it's not so strange that someone could think it might be out of copyright by now. In fact, it is not, because Tolkien died in '73, "only" 35 years ago.

ErwinOtten · 12-30-2008, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

I think "The Hobbit" was first published in 1937, that's 71 years ago... it's not so strange that someone could think it might be out of copyright by now. In fact, it is not, because Tolkien died in '73, "only" 35 years ago.

There you go......I'm not naïve, someone just misinterpreted the copyright laws

12-29-2008, 08:41 PM	#1
Moe The Cat Bear Melt Posts: 919 Karma: 5433051 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto Device: Google Pixel 6, Moto G9 Power (both with Fbreader) & Kindle PW2	The Hobbit at Feedbooks The Hobbit is now available at Feedbooks. I didn't know it was in the public domain or available as an ebook. Did I miss something?

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zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	huh, it looks like the real one too (from the first few pages). it was only added today, you spotted it fast... i recommend you signal this to Hadrien.

12-29-2008, 09:03 PM	#5
Moe The Cat Bear Melt Posts: 919 Karma: 5433051 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto Device: Google Pixel 6, Moto G9 Power (both with Fbreader) & Kindle PW2	Those hobbits are so small! They're difficult to spot, "since they have become rare and shy of the Big People, as they call us." Sorry, I couldn't resist quoting Professor Tolkien on that one ...

12-30-2008, 04:46 AM	#8
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I think the simple answer is "because they can", Erwin. This isn't a case of someone downloading "legal" eBooks from somewhere and thinking "wouldn't it be nice of me to share these with others". All the books concerned had to have been illegally downloaded from somewhere, and that takes a deliberate act of will - it's not something that one does "accidentally".

12-30-2008, 04:59 AM	#10
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	... or perhaps I'm just old and cynical .

12-30-2008, 06:05 AM	#14
Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,515 Karma: 18512745 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	I think "The Hobbit" was first published in 1937, that's 71 years ago... it's not so strange that someone could think it might be out of copyright by now. In fact, it is not, because Tolkien died in '73, "only" 35 years ago.