Book Review: Maelstrom, by Peter Watts (Rifters Trilogy Vol. 2) - Page 2

tompe · 02-26-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Code:

</HEAD>
<BODY LANG="en-US" TEXT="#000000" LINK="#0000ff" VLINK="#800080" DIR="LTR">
<table width=80% border=0 ALIGN="center"><tr><td>

That right there makes it one big table. Plus the tables that are supposed to be there needed work for fix them up like I said before. How are they displayed on the Gen3? All I have to work with is Mobipocket Reader.

Maybe I am looking at the wrong book. Is it Maelstrom from Feedbooks in MobiPocket format you are talking about?

JSWolf · 02-26-2008, 10:12 PM

The code I pasted came from the HTML direct from the Peter Watts website. I don't know if Feedbooks did any messaging of the HTML so you no longer see what was there. But if you were to look at the original HTML, you'd be appalled at it.

JSWolf · 02-26-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by conanfan

Great! I'm looking forward to the Mobipocket version.

Turns out the Mobipocket edition will have to wait a day. I just finished the LRF edition mark 2. I popped the HTML into Mobipocket Publisher and it needs to have page breaks put in some places and links to the first page, ToC, and the cover. That should not take too long. Thanks to Harry's tutorial, I can sort out the HTML fairly easily.

Gudy · 02-27-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

But if you were to look at the original HTML, you'd be appalled at it.

Tell me about it. I sat down late yesterday evening with the foolish notion of "I'll just pop those Peter Watts novels through BD to make myself a nice set of FB2s before I head to bed".

Two hours and a lot of manual editing later, I had two of the four books finished. :-(

tompe · 02-27-2008, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The code I pasted came from the HTML direct from the Peter Watts website. I don't know if Feedbooks did any messaging of the HTML so you no longer see what was there. But if you were to look at the original HTML, you'd be appalled at it.

OK, I looked at the HTML code in the mobi file from feedbooks and that did not have this problem. So what was wrong with feedbooks html code in the epub directory? It seems a good thing to use that as a basis for conversion because then you can contribute your enhancements of the html back to feedbooks.

JSWolf · 02-27-2008, 10:08 AM

Take a look at the original code and you'll see... http://www.rifters.com/real/shorts/Maelstrom.zip

If you look at the PRC and read my comments, you'll see what's wrong.

JSWolf · 02-27-2008, 04:08 PM

Now I have the Mobipocket and EB1150 versions up as well as the newer LRF version.

JSWolf · 02-27-2008, 10:45 PM

Hadrien have you taken a look to see what the problem is in the two tables I've previously pointed out? The version of Maelstrom on Feedbooks has this problem. I have checked the ePub, the PRC, and the PDF to be sure. Also, in some sections, the book uses a different font to mean different things like in "stockpile" section when the computer is talking to the person. The computer's voice should be sans serif. But given a device like the EB1150 that cannot handle different fits, it's come out where the computer text is normal and the person's text is bold and that works. Can ePub have different fonts? My guess is the messaged HTML has been changed just enough to cause these problems.

Hadrien · 02-27-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Hadrien have you taken a look to see what the problem is in the two tables I've previously pointed out? The version of Maelstrom on Feedbooks has this problem. I have checked the ePub, the PRC, and the PDF to be sure. Also, in some sections, the book uses a different font to mean different things like in "stockpile" section when the computer is talking to the person. The computer's voice should be sans serif. But given a device like the EB1150 that cannot handle different fits, it's come out where the computer text is normal and the person's text is bold and that works. Can ePub have different fonts? My guess is the messaged HTML has been changed just enough to cause these problems.

ePub can embed fonts so these kind of things are possible, yes.
On Feedbooks, we use something similar to bbcode right now to represent the formating of the books. Because most e-books have very poor support for tables, I haven't added a table element yet.
I'm gonna work on this in March I guess, we'll use something very similar to the DTBook vocabulary overall. Once this is done, I'll work on a "sexy" way to edit books, probably using Ajax or Flash (Flex ? AIR ?).

JSWolf · 02-28-2008, 09:36 AM

So can you fix the tables or do they have to remain as is for now?

Hadrien · 02-28-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

So can you fix the tables or do they have to remain as is for now?

I'll fix them as soon as we've added the table element on Feedbooks. Right now I'm working on the covers and a few UI improvements, I'll work on the bbcode right after this.

We really need to exchange a few words together with all the people uploading books here too, I'd like to make Feedbooks as easy as possible for people working currently with Book Designer.

DaleDe · 03-06-2008, 01:42 PM

I really don't want these great reviews to get lost over time in a forum so I have decided that the wiki is a good place to keep them where people can find them. I have taken the liberty to copy this review into the wiki as an example (I hope this is ok with Carandol)

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Category:Book_reviews

Dale

Hadrien · 03-06-2008, 01:48 PM

Good idea Dale, an additional page on the wiki for the reviews will be useful.

carandol · 03-06-2008, 02:33 PM

To quote myself here a couple of weeks ago:

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I was wondering what others thought of the idea of starting a section *just* for reviews, with discussion of those reviews perhaps in a different thread.

So, yes, it suits me!

Though I was hoping more people might have joined in by now. Perhaps an announcement on the front page for people who haven't been following the thread?

DaleDe · 03-06-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by carandol

To quote myself here a couple of weeks ago:

So, yes, it suits me!

Though I was hoping more people might have joined in by now. Perhaps an announcement on the front page for people who haven't been following the thread?

OK I will start a special thread but I suspect most will see it here anyway.

Dale

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02-26-2008, 10:12 PM	#17
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,975 Karma: 128903378 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The code I pasted came from the HTML direct from the Peter Watts website. I don't know if Feedbooks did any messaging of the HTML so you no longer see what was there. But if you were to look at the original HTML, you'd be appalled at it.

02-27-2008, 10:08 AM	#21
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,975 Karma: 128903378 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Take a look at the original code and you'll see... http://www.rifters.com/real/shorts/Maelstrom.zip If you look at the PRC and read my comments, you'll see what's wrong.

02-27-2008, 04:08 PM	#22
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,975 Karma: 128903378 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Now I have the Mobipocket and EB1150 versions up as well as the newer LRF version.

02-27-2008, 10:45 PM	#23
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,975 Karma: 128903378 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Hadrien have you taken a look to see what the problem is in the two tables I've previously pointed out? The version of Maelstrom on Feedbooks has this problem. I have checked the ePub, the PRC, and the PDF to be sure. Also, in some sections, the book uses a different font to mean different things like in "stockpile" section when the computer is talking to the person. The computer's voice should be sans serif. But given a device like the EB1150 that cannot handle different fits, it's come out where the computer text is normal and the person's text is bold and that works. Can ePub have different fonts? My guess is the messaged HTML has been changed just enough to cause these problems.

02-28-2008, 09:36 AM	#25
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,975 Karma: 128903378 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	So can you fix the tables or do they have to remain as is for now?

03-06-2008, 01:42 PM	#27
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	I really don't want these great reviews to get lost over time in a forum so I have decided that the wiki is a good place to keep them where people can find them. I have taken the liberty to copy this review into the wiki as an example (I hope this is ok with Carandol) https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Category:Book_reviews Dale

03-06-2008, 01:48 PM	#28
Hadrien Feedbooks.com Co-Founder Posts: 2,263 Karma: 145123 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Paris, France Device: Sony PRS-t-1/350/300/500/505/600/700, Nexus S, iPad	Good idea Dale, an additional page on the wiki for the reviews will be useful.