W10 default app ???

ops2048 · 09-17-2018, 08:03 PM

Tried setting Calibre as the Win10 default app for *.pdf etc files. To be told Calibre not in microsoft app store. Ist Verbooten to set as default. wtf !!!

Any suggestions as to operator error, workaround or remedy welcomed.

kovidgoyal · 09-17-2018, 08:39 PM

Unless W10 changed recently (with microsofts new windows as a "service" aka I want more money model, version numbers for windows are useless), you should still be able to use non-app store apps as defaults. What procedure are you following to try to change the default app?

ops2048 · 09-17-2018, 10:04 PM

ermm .. notta hacker, by the book ??? hmmm .. wordy.

bottom left main windows icon on popup task bar -> settings -> apps -> default apps ->

scroll down to, select, "choose default app by file type" <enter>

scroll down to *.pdf, select adobe reader (previously set) <enter>

popup "choose an app" window does not present option to select locally installed calibre. selection of microsoft app store as source provides inventory not containing calibre ..

total dead end ???

btw, calibre 3.31 IS locally installed.

theducks · 09-17-2018, 10:59 PM

Wow!
I went to Properties of a PDF file and Change for Open with
Same list.

Looks like you will need to Jam something in with Regedit (a Guru level operation)
But why would you want to us Calibre (and that should probably be ebook viewer) to open a PDF? AFAIK That is not a Native PDF viewer

ops2048 · 09-18-2018, 12:11 AM

thx theducks. silly me .. trying to open/manage a book (Unity/C++ manual) published asa pdf in Calibre.

O.K. then, no diss intended but, o.k. whatsa ebook format, lets try *.epub, nope, no listing for Calibre to be set as win10 default. howabout *.mobi. nope. oh dear.

worst case, shirly Calibre should distribute thru the Borg's app store ???

theducks · 09-18-2018, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ops2048

thx theducks. silly me .. trying to open/manage a book (Unity/C++ manual) published asa pdf in Calibre.

O.K. then, no diss intended but, o.k. whatsa ebook format, lets try *.epub, nope, no listing for Calibre to be set as win10 default. howabout *.mobi. nope. oh dear.

worst case, shirly Calibre should distribute thru the Borg's app store ???

You can drag and drop any format INTO calibre. You just can't launch it by filetype from the OS.
Calibre does register (at least, it used to. I may be grandfathered

), book formats to open with the viewer.
The borg wants to get their hooks (ads, tracking, who knows) into anything in the store

kovidgoyal · 09-18-2018, 05:27 AM

Microsoft's new control panel is designed for brain damaged gorillas as best as I can tell. Instead, locate a PDF file, right click on it, choose "Open with" then click more apps, you should see calibre (at least I do on my w10 PC) if you do not, then scroll to the bottom of the list and click on "Look for another app on this PC" browse to the calibre installation folder (C:\Program Files\Calibre2 by default) and choose calibre.exe

Divingduck · 09-18-2018, 09:36 AM

LOL +1!

Apache · 09-18-2018, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Microsoft's new control panel is designed for brain damaged gorillas as best as I can tell.

This would be funny if it wasn't so true.
Apache

BetterRed · 09-18-2018, 05:55 PM

The Windows Default Programs mechanism was crap when it first showed up in NT ???, and every attempt to fix it since has made it worse. Under the covers it's probably still carrying features from OS/2, DDE verbs, and OLE - legacy legacy.

And I'm not aware of any safe alternatives - there used to be some, most of which have been discontinued.

Some bits of the flat plastic Settings are (IMO) better, e.g. Bluetooth and Windows Update (on Pro).

BR

davidfor · 09-18-2018, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

The Windows Default Programs mechanism was crap when it first showed up in NT ???, and every attempt to fix it since has made it worse. Under the covers it's probably still carrying features from OS/2, DDE verbs, and OLE - legacy legacy.

I'm pretty sure it was in Win95.

And I wish Windows did this in the OS/2 way. No OS I've seen has the same flexibility for associating programs with files.

ops2048 · 09-18-2018, 08:26 PM

All better now. Mille gracie Kovidgoyal.

hmmm .. be nice ifn there waza way to automate all relevent win10 defaults to Calibre. ops shud just RTF(win10)M.

BetterRed · 09-18-2018, 10:37 PM

@davidfor - Windows NT pre-dates Window 95 by a couple of years. NT 3.1 was the first NT, so-called because that was the current 16bit Windows version. And I agree OS/2 file association handling is (because it's still in use) infinitely better than any Windows file association has ever been, or ever will be. We regarded early NT as an blend of OS/2 and Win 16 (mashup in modern parlance) that delivered the worst of both worlds :lol:

BR

dwig · 09-19-2018, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@davidfor - Windows NT pre-dates Window 95 by a couple of years. NT 3.1 was the first NT, so-called because that was the current 16bit Windows version. And I agree OS/2 file association handling is (because it's still in use) infinitely better than any Windows file association has ever been, or ever will be. We regarded early NT as an blend of OS/2 and Win 16 (mashup in modern parlance) that delivered the worst of both worlds :lol:

BR

Correct. The NT line caught up with Win95's (Windows v4.0) interface conventions with the release of NT4.0. Both Windows and WindowsNT coexisted until the (welcomed) death of WindowsME(v4.9). There were no v5 Windows releases. NT continued with Windows 2000 (NT5.0), XP (NT5.1), Vista (NT6.0), Windows 7 (NT6.1), 8.0 (NT6.2), 8.1 (NT6.3, it really was Windows9), and Windows 10 (NT6.4).

Phssthpok · 09-23-2018, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwig

Correct. The NT line caught up with Win95's (Windows v4.0) interface conventions with the release of NT4.0. Both Windows and WindowsNT coexisted until the (welcomed) death of WindowsME(v4.9). There were no v5 Windows releases. NT continued with Windows 2000 (NT5.0), XP (NT5.1), Vista (NT6.0), Windows 7 (NT6.1), 8.0 (NT6.2), 8.1 (NT6.3, it really was Windows9), and Windows 10 (NT6.4).

There was also the unmemorable Windows CE at around the same period, so you ended up with Windows CE-ME-NT.

09-17-2018, 08:03 PM	#1
ops2048 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2018 Device: none	W10 default app ??? Tried setting Calibre as the Win10 default app for .pdf etc files. To be told Calibre not in microsoft app store. Ist Verbooten to set as default. wtf !!! Any suggestions as to operator error, workaround or remedy welcomed. Last edited by ops2048; 09-17-2018 at 08:06 PM.*

09-17-2018, 10:04 PM	#3
ops2048 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2018 Device: none	thx ermm .. notta hacker, by the book ??? hmmm .. wordy. bottom left main windows icon on popup task bar -> settings -> apps -> default apps -> scroll down to, select, "choose default app by file type" <enter> scroll down to .pdf, select adobe reader (previously set) <enter> popup "choose an app" window does not present option to select locally installed calibre. selection of microsoft app store as source provides inventory not containing calibre .. total dead end ??? btw, calibre 3.31 IS locally installed. Last edited by ops2048; 09-17-2018 at 10:09 PM.*

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09-17-2018, 08:39 PM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,858 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Unless W10 changed recently (with microsofts new windows as a "service" aka I want more money model, version numbers for windows are useless), you should still be able to use non-app store apps as defaults. What procedure are you following to try to change the default app?

09-17-2018, 10:59 PM	#4
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,801 Karma: 54830978 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Wow! I went to Properties of a PDF file and Change for Open with Same list. Looks like you will need to Jam something in with Regedit (a Guru level operation) But why would you want to us Calibre (and that should probably be ebook viewer) to open a PDF? AFAIK That is not a Native PDF viewer

09-18-2018, 12:11 AM	#5
ops2048 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2018 Device: none	thx theducks. silly me .. trying to open/manage a book (Unity/C++ manual) published asa pdf in Calibre. O.K. then, no diss intended but, o.k. whatsa ebook format, lets try .epub, nope, no listing for Calibre to be set as win10 default. howabout .mobi. nope. oh dear. worst case, shirly Calibre should distribute thru the Borg's app store ???

09-18-2018, 05:27 AM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,858 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Microsoft's new control panel is designed for brain damaged gorillas as best as I can tell. Instead, locate a PDF file, right click on it, choose "Open with" then click more apps, you should see calibre (at least I do on my w10 PC) if you do not, then scroll to the bottom of the list and click on "Look for another app on this PC" browse to the calibre installation folder (C:\Program Files\Calibre2 by default) and choose calibre.exe

09-18-2018, 09:36 AM	#8
Divingduck Wizard Posts: 1,161 Karma: 1404241 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Germany Device: Sony PRS-650	LOL +1!

09-18-2018, 05:55 PM	#10
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,568 Karma: 26954694 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	The Windows Default Programs mechanism was crap when it first showed up in NT ???, and every attempt to fix it since has made it worse. Under the covers it's probably still carrying features from OS/2, DDE verbs, and OLE - legacy legacy. And I'm not aware of any safe alternatives - there used to be some, most of which have been discontinued. Some bits of the flat plastic Settings are (IMO) better, e.g. Bluetooth and Windows Update (on Pro). BR

09-18-2018, 08:26 PM	#12
ops2048 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2018 Device: none	All better now. Mille gracie Kovidgoyal. hmmm .. be nice ifn there waza way to automate all relevent win10 defaults to Calibre. ops shud just RTF(win10)M.

09-18-2018, 10:37 PM	#13
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,568 Karma: 26954694 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@davidfor - Windows NT pre-dates Window 95 by a couple of years. NT 3.1 was the first NT, so-called because that was the current 16bit Windows version. And I agree OS/2 file association handling is (because it's still in use) infinitely better than any Windows file association has ever been, or ever will be. We regarded early NT as an blend of OS/2 and Win 16 (mashup in modern parlance) that delivered the worst of both worlds :lol: BR