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I would argue that the psi powers used by SF writers from the 30's to the 50's, including such names as Asimov, Doc Smith, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Andre Norton, and McCaffery were the functional equivalent of witches. A number of classic SF books used psi powers. |
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01-02-2019, 03:56 PM | #17 |
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I can see it would be difficult to classify "The Witches of Karres" by James Schmitz. The book has both spaceships & witches.....
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http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sf/written-faq/ 8. What is the difference between science fiction and fantasy? See Q#7. This also has been done to death. Virtually every answer you give will fail to clearly indicate which category a large number of books belong to. Familiar books mentioned that test the boundary conditions include Anne McCaffrey's "Dragon" series, Piers Anthony's "Apprentice Adept" series, STAR WARS, and anything that uses FTL. The most concise definition I've heard was given by John Clute in a radio broadcast 22 March 1997: " "Science fiction: the model is that it is a kind of story which argues from this world a kind of possible outcome. It's possibly an improbable outcome, but it is arguable. Fantasy essentially, as I have been seeing it, is a series of stories, self-coherent stories (a term we use, kind of a bad neologism to describe stories which as [it] were understand themselves as stories; they're told stories), that are set in worlds that are technically impossible, that we can't argue. We may believe in them, but we can't argue them." === |
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I can't seem to find much contemporary SF I like. The only two living authors I like are Robert Charles Wilson and Christopher Priest, and they'rennot young
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01-02-2019, 10:50 PM | #20 |
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Nice to see a discussion in which "SF" is being used to mean Science fiction and not "SciFi" or "Speculative Fiction", which are abominations unto the Lord and the invention of the devil.
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01-03-2019, 05:50 AM | #21 |
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Asimov wrote fantasy himself; and he was a fan of LOTR. He enjoyed Star Wars, which he seems to have considered to be fantasy, and fun; but disparaged Close Encounters because he thought the science was ludicrous.
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01-03-2019, 06:17 AM | #22 | |
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French and Italian are very closely related, Hindi and Urdu much more so, but when I want to buy books in those languages, I find each of them in their own category - no French in the Italian section, no Hindi in the Urdu. In contrast, trying to find science fiction devoid of fantasy is a tedious and time-consuming process because apparently if one enjoys reading fiction solidly based on science, one must therefore also enjoy interminable sagas of wizards, witches, elves and mages. All set on other planets, which apparently makes them SF. |
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There are some excellent "hard SF" authors around, eg Peter F. Hamilton and Alistair Reynolds. Both very much alive!
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I've never liked Heinlein. I don't understand why he is considered great. I used to think Asimov and Clarke were the greats, and I still think they were, in places. Now I think Banks and the Strugatsky brothers were the greats. Last edited by Pajamaman; 01-03-2019 at 08:37 AM. |
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I far prefer Hamilton to Banks, but obviously such things are very much a matter of personal taste. Have you tried Hamilton's "Great North Road"? Best book I've read in last few years for me personally. It's a standalone "police procedural" set in Newcastle-upon-Tyne in the 22nd century. Give it a go!
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Ill try it. Thx.
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Oh well, each to their own . I loved it!
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The Great North Road is my first book of the new tear and I am enjoying it.
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