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Old 11-12-2019, 12:39 PM   #616
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Also it is definitely the nicest ereader I ever held. I know the design isn't entirely original, but for the first time I feel like someone actually thought about "How do people hold this?" instead of just making it a tablet with a different screen!
good for you. it's the ultimate aim to be happy with whatever we purchase. personally i prefer an ereader to be roughly the same size and shape of a standard paperback. each to their own of course

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Old 11-12-2019, 02:00 PM   #617
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I returned the others so I can't do a direct comparison, but I feel like the Kobo has better contrast than the Inkpad 3 Pro I tried last week?
Yes, the contrast is way better than the Inkpad3 Pros. I installed fonts a tad bolder to mine. Still not as good a contrast as with the Kobos I had, but I guess I'll get used to it. The light is also not as bright as the Kobos.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:06 PM   #618
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good for you. it's the ultimate aim to be happy with whatever we purchase. personally i prefer an ereader to be roughly the same size and shape of a standard paperback. each to their own of course
Why would you want an ereader that was two centimetres thick?
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:09 PM   #619
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Why would you want an ereader that was two centimetres thick?
hence why i didn't mention thickness.

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Old 11-12-2019, 07:22 PM   #620
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hence why i didn't mention thickness.
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roughly the same size and shape of a standard paperback
"Size and shape" does imply depth as well as height and width.

I used to have something like that. Very much like that. It was called "Newton MP2000". Operating system aside I much prefer my Forma.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:34 PM   #621
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"Size and shape" does imply depth as well as height and width.

I used to have something like that. Very much like that. It was called "Newton MP2000". Operating system aside I much prefer my Forma.
the main focus of my comment was indeed the height and width dimensions. i don't believe anyone would want an ereader the thickness of a war and peace paperback, although never say never.

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Why would you want an ereader that was two centimetres thick?
20mm would be a bit much, but something between 10mm and 14mm would be just fine if it has 0ish bezel, side page turn buttons, and can be held comfortably between thumb and 3rd or 4th finger.
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20mm would be a bit much, but something between 10mm and 14mm would be just fine if it has 0ish bezel, side page turn buttons, and can be held comfortably between thumb and 3rd or 4th finger.
Like, say, a Kobo Forma?
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the main focus of my comment was indeed the height and width dimensions. i don't believe anyone would want an ereader the thickness of a war and peace paperback, although never say never.
My comment was a joke but, it has clearly pointed out how bad people are at defining things that they are talking about. And how many assumptions people make that are different to what others make. Or redefine things afterwards for convenience.
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Old 11-13-2019, 02:14 AM   #625
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My comment was a joke but, it has clearly pointed out how bad people are at defining things that they are talking about. And how many assumptions people make that are different to what others make. Or redefine things afterwards for convenience.
i know your comment was a joke. if i'd read the exact same post by someone else common sense would have told me they weren't referring to the varying thickness of paperbacks. it's the reason why i (knew) you were joking.

thank you though for pointing it out. if i make a similar comment in future i will make sure i specifically specify that i'm (only) referring to the height and width dimensions.

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20mm would be a bit much, but something between 10mm and 14mm would be just fine if it has 0ish bezel, side page turn buttons, and can be held comfortably between thumb and 3rd or 4th finger.
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Like, say, a Kobo Forma?
Well, no.

By 0ish bezel, I meant both sides.

And by side page turn buttons, I meant page turn buttons on the thickish sides, not on the front or back.

And the intended hold would be between thumb and fingers across the palm. Ideally a page turn button would be a bi-directional toggle operated by slightly shifting the thumb toward the top or bottom. Most effortless page turns ever.
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And the intended hold would be between thumb and fingers across the palm. Ideally a page turn button would be a bi-directional toggle operated by slightly shifting the thumb toward the top or bottom. Most effortless page turns ever.
For some value of "ideal" and "effortless". I have a Paperwhite 3. I can just barely hold it between the tip of my thumb and tip of my pinky the way you describe. Do not want.
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For some value of "ideal" and "effortless". I have a Paperwhite 3. I can just barely hold it between the tip of my thumb and tip of my pinky the way you describe. Do not want.
I do not have a PW3 handy, but I think eliminating the bezels would make it at least 25 mm narrower.
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I do not have a PW3 handy, but I think eliminating the bezels would make it at least 25 mm narrower.
Maybe you just have giant hands? I 'unnow. I do know that people with small to medium sized hands -- women, children, me -- would never be able to use a reader like you describe, not without cutting it down to smartphone scale.
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All this talk of making bezels smaller is making my hands hurt just thinking about it.

I want MORE bezel, not less.
These are handheld devices meant to be used for hours on end.

Ergonomics matter
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