suggestion: renaming of images and html files

maxsteinfeld · 03-02-2020, 02:55 AM

What i mean:
If you click e.g. on an image file in the "Images"-directory, would it be possible, to change the name immediately without calling up the context menu (right click) ?
function would then be the same as in e.g. MS Windows Explorer.
regards
M

KevinH · 03-02-2020, 08:58 AM

So if I click on a name in BookBrowser, you want it to allow me to change the name instead of requiring a left-click? That would make selecting files to open in the TabManager virtually impossible.

Also, it is not just a file rename like Windows Explorer is doing. All of the links to that file must be found and automatically updated.

As for being the same as MS Windows Explorer, that was and never will be a goal of Sigil.

DiapDealer · 03-02-2020, 09:02 AM

It actually used to work that way (I don't remember exactly what triggered it) on Windows in the past (with any resource in Book Browser that was allowed to be renamed). I don't know if we disabled it somehow, or if it's down to a Qt change. But regardless, there's only so many signals we can work with. Double-clicking a file in Book Browser opens the file in a new tab (on Windows anyway), and I don't think having the default platform tree-rename editor fire with each and every single-click on a File in the Book Browser would please anyone, so just what mouse event would the OP have us associate with this quicker rename request?

Making the Book Browser behave the same as a platform's standard file browser is not something we're really striving for. Especially now that the Book Browser tree view is a virtual representation of the collection of files in an epub and not a physical one.

BetterRed · 03-02-2020, 10:07 AM

What's wrong with F2, its does the same as what Windows does - opens the file name for editing.

One of the reasons I use a 3rd party file manager for Windows is that it has a tweak to disable single click rename - drives me nuts when I have to use Windows/File Explorer.

IMO if one wanted the Book browser behave more like most (all ?) file managers the first thing to do would be to make it keyboard focusable/navigable. Qt permitting of course

BR

Turtle91 · 03-02-2020, 10:56 AM

The way windows works is if you left-click on a file that already has the focus then you could rename it. I don't think it would save any clicks...right now it's a right-click, then a left-click on rename. If it was changed it would be, left-click, pause, left-click.

No time saved, but a consistent feel for windows users. I can't speak to any other OS.

maxsteinfeld · 03-02-2020, 01:09 PM

@all
since I also use the MS geWindows Explorer, it is a little uncomfortable to work without the usual "double left click" when renaming ... but sorry: "We're all creatures of habit!"

JSWolf · 03-02-2020, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxsteinfeld

@all
since I also use the MS geWindows Explorer, it is a little uncomfortable to work without the usual "double left click" when renaming ... but sorry: "We're all creatures of habit!"

Calibre does this and it's annoying.

un_pogaz · 03-03-2020, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Calibre does this and it's annoying.

An option then:
Click a second time on the element with the focus activates the renaming (Windows like)

DiapDealer · 03-03-2020, 06:21 AM

No interest in making Book View more "Windows-like" (or Mac-like or Gnome- or KDE-like for that matter). Book View is not your platform of choice's built-in file browser. It was never intended to be. There are many, many ways (besides file renaming) that Book View is always going to differ from your platform's regular file browser/explorer.

03-02-2020, 02:55 AM	#1
maxsteinfeld Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: none	suggestion: renaming of images and html files What i mean: If you click e.g. on an image file in the "Images"-directory, would it be possible, to change the name immediately without calling up the context menu (right click) ? function would then be the same as in e.g. MS Windows Explorer. regards M

03-02-2020, 09:02 AM	#3
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	It actually used to work that way (I don't remember exactly what triggered it) on Windows in the past (with any resource in Book Browser that was allowed to be renamed). I don't know if we disabled it somehow, or if it's down to a Qt change. But regardless, there's only so many signals we can work with. Double-clicking a file in Book Browser opens the file in a new tab (on Windows anyway), and I don't think having the default platform tree-rename editor fire with each and every single-click on a File in the Book Browser would please anyone, so just what mouse event would the OP have us associate with this quicker rename request? Making the Book Browser behave the same as a platform's standard file browser is not something we're really striving for. Especially now that the Book Browser tree view is a virtual representation of the collection of files in an epub and not a physical one. Last edited by DiapDealer; 03-02-2020 at 09:08 AM.

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03-02-2020, 08:58 AM	#2
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,644 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	So if I click on a name in BookBrowser, you want it to allow me to change the name instead of requiring a left-click? That would make selecting files to open in the TabManager virtually impossible. Also, it is not just a file rename like Windows Explorer is doing. All of the links to that file must be found and automatically updated. As for being the same as MS Windows Explorer, that was and never will be a goal of Sigil.

03-02-2020, 10:07 AM	#4
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,567 Karma: 26954694 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	What's wrong with F2, its does the same as what Windows does - opens the file name for editing. One of the reasons I use a 3rd party file manager for Windows is that it has a tweak to disable single click rename - drives me nuts when I have to use Windows/File Explorer. IMO if one wanted the Book browser behave more like most (all ?) file managers the first thing to do would be to make it keyboard focusable/navigable. Qt permitting of course BR

03-02-2020, 10:56 AM	#5
Turtle91 A Hairy Wizard Posts: 3,094 Karma: 18727053 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 11/X/6/iPad 1,2,Air & Air Pro/Surface Pro/Kindle PW & Fire	The way windows works is if you left-click on a file that already has the focus then you could rename it. I don't think it would save any clicks...right now it's a right-click, then a left-click on rename. If it was changed it would be, left-click, pause, left-click. No time saved, but a consistent feel for windows users. I can't speak to any other OS.

03-02-2020, 01:09 PM	#6
maxsteinfeld Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: none	@all since I also use the MS geWindows Explorer, it is a little uncomfortable to work without the usual "double left click" when renaming ... but sorry: "We're all creatures of habit!"

03-03-2020, 06:21 AM	#9
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	No interest in making Book View more "Windows-like" (or Mac-like or Gnome- or KDE-like for that matter). Book View is not your platform of choice's built-in file browser. It was never intended to be. There are many, many ways (besides file renaming) that Book View is always going to differ from your platform's regular file browser/explorer.