Amazon Kindle goes international - Page 16

GeoffC · 10-08-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Though in theory as with most sites. You can download the purchase again if needed.

in theory ...

that is true, but who knows how long it would be before there is consolidation of some existing etailers .... and from what i can remember of t&cs they don't guarantee retention of your books....

AnemicOak · 10-08-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Though in theory as with most sites. You can download the purchase again if needed.

Never rely on that.

IMO the best thing to do when buying a book is make sure you have an un-DRM'd backup. Stores have closed up and even having a DRM'd backup does you little good if you can't change the PID, register a new reader or whatever depending on the DRM system (except maybe eReader DRM).

Terisa de morgan · 10-08-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Only if you have a Kindle, though. I don't believe even the iPhone/Touch app is avaliable outside America... so you can't really seperate them.

At least they didn't know it at Spanish store (I phoned

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mores · 10-08-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Only if you have a Kindle, though. I don't believe even the iPhone/Touch app is avaliable outside America... so you can't really seperate them.

Not yet, true. But I am confident it'll be not too long now

mgmueller · 10-08-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mgmueller

You just have to use a software proxy. You then can simulate, being in the US. Original intent of such proxies was, to hide your identity. In this case, I hide my original location.

Strangest thing...
Today I can purchase agasin as usual. US account, residing in Germany though.
No proxy, no circumvention needed.

Yesterday it didn't work, as many others have reported. Yesterday Amazon checked: Actual location vs. account address...

sforce · 10-08-2009, 03:30 PM

"Using The International Kindle Could Rack Up Fees"

"Not only does the new international Kindle cost more than its U.S. counterpart, owners who want to take advantage of the wireless connectivity will be paying more for it. In addition to the $2 per-book fee for non-U.S. downloads, paidContent has learned from Amazon (NasdaqGS: AMZN - News) that it will cost users $5 a week to access their newspaper, magazine and blog subscriptions via Whispernet. (Whispernet is the name of Amazon's wireless network, no matter which carrier delivers the service.) Also, as I explain below, the cost of downloading a book though the AT&T-managed international Whispernet will run roughly 13 times higher than Amazon currently charges in the U.S. for the same size file delivered by Sprint-managed Whispernet through e-mail." (more)

kennyc · 10-08-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mgmueller

Strangest thing...
Today I can purchase agasin as usual. US account, residing in Germany though.
No proxy, no circumvention needed.

Yesterday it didn't work, as many others have reported. Then Amazon checked: Actual location vs. account address...

Sounds like they are having a few roll-out glitches.

sigmax · 10-08-2009, 03:36 PM

Hey

I was about to press "BUY" on an Astak 5", and now I read this! My country (Uruguay) supports kindle ...

How would you compare hardware quality of a Kindle, against an Astak and a Sony ? For a start, it says 16 shades of gray which is not bad. But I never seen a kindle firsthand. Is it cheapo plastic ? Does it casing cracks under its own weight ? Prolly wront topic to post these questions ... Regards, SigmaX.

desertgrandma · 10-08-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sigmax

Hey

I was about to press "BUY" on an Astak 5", and now I read this! My country (Uruguay) supports kindle ...

How would you compare hardware quality of a Kindle, against an Astak and a Sony ? For a start, it says 16 shades of gray which is not bad. But I never seen a kindle firsthand. Is it cheapo plastic ? Does it casing cracks under its own weight ? Prolly wront topic to post these questions ... Regards, SigmaX.

Remember one thing. If you are in any way dissatisfied with your Kindle, Amazon provides full refund price within 30 days......all you have to do is pay for return shipping. Here, it runs about $10.

I don't think the Kindle is any more/less fragile than other ebook devices.

Harmon · 10-08-2009, 03:51 PM

The drop in the price point of the K2 seems to me to be a signal that Amazon has no immediate plans to compete with Sony on either size (300) or touchscreen (600.) Instead, they are going to compete on price & wireless.

First, they start out by positioning the K2 (1) against the 300 on the basis that for a mere 50 bucks more, you get a bigger screen plus wireless and (2) against the 600 on the basis that it's 50 bucks less and sure, you lose touch but you gain wireless.

Then, they will do a similar play on the price on the KDX around the time the DE is brought on market.

It seems to me that this leaves Sony with no option but to lower its prices on the 300 & 600 and meet the price of the KDX on the DE.

Ea · 10-08-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Remember one thing. If you are in any way dissatisfied with your Kindle, Amazon provides full refund price within 30 days......all you have to do is pay for return shipping. Here, it runs about $10.

Just to provide a bit of context, from here, a max 1 kg parcel (approx. 2 pounds) costs 42 USD to send to the USA. It's my impression that it's generally a bit cheaper in other European countries, plus if you choose to send it as a 'letter' (non-trackable and less (none?) insurance) it's a good deal cheaper and closer to 10 USD. Personally, I wouldn't dare to choose any other option than 'parcel' though.

pilotbob · 10-08-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sforce

"Using The International Kindle Could Rack Up Fees"

"Not only does the new international Kindle cost more than its U.S. counterpart, owners who want to take advantage of the wireless connectivity will be paying more for it. In addition to the $2 per-book fee for non-U.S. downloads, paidContent has learned from Amazon (NasdaqGS: AMZN - News) that it will cost users $5 a week to access their newspaper, magazine and blog subscriptions via Whispernet. (Whispernet is the name of Amazon's wireless network, no matter which carrier delivers the service.) Also, as I explain below, the cost of downloading a book though the AT&T-managed international Whispernet will run roughly 13 times higher than Amazon currently charges in the U.S. for the same size file delivered by Sprint-managed Whispernet through e-mail." (more)

This also may be 100% wrong. From some sleuths here diving into the Amazon terms and also asking Amazon support the above is only true if you are a US person.

In other words you only pay the surcharges outside of your home country. So yes, if a US personal was on vacation in Spain (or whatever is a supported roaming country) for a week and still wanted their blogs/subscriptions delivered they would have to pay the $5 surcharge.

BOb

pdurrant · 10-08-2009, 05:46 PM

This used to be so, but is no longer the case. See

https://www.mobipocket.com/ebookbase...e/pub_info.asp

"Effective September 2009, we will no longer open new accounts for publishers to sell titles through the Kindle Store or MobiPocket.com."

There is currently no way for a small non-US publisher to get books into the Amazon Kindle ebook store.

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Originally Posted by HarryT

With respect, Neil, I have already told you - and demonstrated to you - that this is not the case. You can get your books into the Kindle eBook Store by uploading them to Mobipocket, who accept publishers from anywhere in the world. I have done so myself.

barrow · 10-08-2009, 07:27 PM

Hi! I'm new here and have a question regarding the comparison of the Kindle with other e-book readers.

It seems that the Kindle offers INSTANT dictionary look up for words in the document that you are reading. From what I gather, no other e-book reader offers this function?

This creates the potential for language translation. I'm learning French at the moment. If I load a French-English dictionary onto my Kindle, then change the default dictionary to it (which you are able to do), then when I am reading French e-books on my Kindle, I can get instant English translation of those words of which I am unsure of in French.

This is an invaluable feature that seems unique to the Kindle. Or are there other e-book readers where I could also do this? Please advise me if so, because I am no expert but if there are other readers that can perform this kind of language translation "on the fly" then I may be more interested in them.

rhari79 · 10-08-2009, 08:26 PM

At last Amazon has managed to look beyond one continent.
Whatever be the cost factors, this is good news for ereaders!
I still may not buy it. Inches matter here

I would like to see the Kindle DX offered internationally.

But now its time for Sony to respond..

10-08-2009, 08:26 PM	#240
rhari79 Addict Posts: 375 Karma: 2200000 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chennai Device: .*	At Last!! At last Amazon has managed to look beyond one continent. Whatever be the cost factors, this is good news for ereaders! I still may not buy it. Inches matter here I would like to see the Kindle DX offered internationally. But now its time for Sony to respond..

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sforce Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 184 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Plastic Logic (?)	"Using The International Kindle Could Rack Up Fees" "Not only does the new international Kindle cost more than its U.S. counterpart, owners who want to take advantage of the wireless connectivity will be paying more for it. In addition to the $2 per-book fee for non-U.S. downloads, paidContent has learned from Amazon (NasdaqGS: AMZN - News) that it will cost users $5 a week to access their newspaper, magazine and blog subscriptions via Whispernet. (Whispernet is the name of Amazon's wireless network, no matter which carrier delivers the service.) Also, as I explain below, the cost of downloading a book though the AT&T-managed international Whispernet will run roughly 13 times higher than Amazon currently charges in the U.S. for the same size file delivered by Sprint-managed Whispernet through e-mail." (more)

10-08-2009, 03:36 PM	#233
sigmax Connoisseur Posts: 53 Karma: 92 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uruguay Device: SONY PRS-300	Hey I was about to press "BUY" on an Astak 5", and now I read this! My country (Uruguay) supports kindle ... How would you compare hardware quality of a Kindle, against an Astak and a Sony ? For a start, it says 16 shades of gray which is not bad. But I never seen a kindle firsthand. Is it cheapo plastic ? Does it casing cracks under its own weight ? Prolly wront topic to post these questions ... Regards, SigmaX.

10-08-2009, 03:51 PM	#235
Harmon King of the Bongo Drums Posts: 1,625 Karma: 5927225 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Excelsior! (Strange...)	The drop in the price point of the K2 seems to me to be a signal that Amazon has no immediate plans to compete with Sony on either size (300) or touchscreen (600.) Instead, they are going to compete on price & wireless. First, they start out by positioning the K2 (1) against the 300 on the basis that for a mere 50 bucks more, you get a bigger screen plus wireless and (2) against the 600 on the basis that it's 50 bucks less and sure, you lose touch but you gain wireless. Then, they will do a similar play on the price on the KDX around the time the DE is brought on market. It seems to me that this leaves Sony with no option but to lower its prices on the 300 & 600 and meet the price of the KDX on the DE.

10-08-2009, 07:27 PM	#239
barrow Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Want: Kindle 2 / Cybook Gen3 / Sony Daily Reader	Hi! I'm new here and have a question regarding the comparison of the Kindle with other e-book readers. It seems that the Kindle offers INSTANT dictionary look up for words in the document that you are reading. From what I gather, no other e-book reader offers this function? This creates the potential for language translation. I'm learning French at the moment. If I load a French-English dictionary onto my Kindle, then change the default dictionary to it (which you are able to do), then when I am reading French e-books on my Kindle, I can get instant English translation of those words of which I am unsure of in French. This is an invaluable feature that seems unique to the Kindle. Or are there other e-book readers where I could also do this? Please advise me if so, because I am no expert but if there are other readers that can perform this kind of language translation "on the fly" then I may be more interested in them.