Strange bug editing in BookView

ZioNemo · 05-05-2019, 10:13 AM

I am unsure if this is the right place to report this kind of bugs.
Please feel free to redirect me as needed.

A minimal example to reproduce the bug is:

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
  "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title></title>
<link href="../Styles/Style0001.css" type="text/css" rel="stylesheet"/>
</head>
<body>
<div class="scene">
<p>Jona era appena uscito che il Sacerdote chiamò il suo Apprendista e dette una serie di ordini, poi tornò a parlare con l’Amuleto.<br/>Poco dopo una piccola processione composta dal Sacerdote...</p>
</div>
</body>
</html>

Together wit the following CSS fragment:

Code:

p:first-child:first-letter {
    float: left;
    font-size: 3em;
    line-height: 1;
    margin-bottom: -0.20em;
    margin-right: 0.05em;
    margin-top: -0.1em;
}

If you try to convert the newline (<br/>) to a proper paragraph (</p><p>) in BookView (i.e: cursor at end of first line, [del], [enter]) result is:

Code:

... con l’Amulet</p>
<p>&nbsp;oPoco...

which does not look right

This does *not* happen without the "drop-caps CSS fragment.

DiapDealer · 05-05-2019, 11:24 AM

Lots of strange things happen when editing in Book View. That's why it's highly recommended that you don't do it.

Turtle91 · 05-05-2019, 11:45 AM

Perhaps a large sticky..."Problems with editing in Book View"....with a single post "DON'T DO IT"...then close the thread??? lolz

DNSB · 05-05-2019, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle91

Perhaps a large sticky..."Problems with editing in Book View"....with a single post "DON'T DO IT"...then close the thread??? lolz

I'd add "THIS MEANS YOU!".

BetterRed · 05-05-2019, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle91

Perhaps a large sticky..."Problems with editing in Book View"....with a single post "DON'T DO IT"...then close the thread??? lolz

A black on yellow warning in the status line would be better, probably with a link to an explanatory note, here or the Sigil Wiki.

The majority of people don't see the stickies (or Similar Threats). I often have to move inappropriate threads from calibre's Development sub-forum, despite the UPPER case sticky.

BR

ZioNemo · 05-09-2019, 03:48 PM

Sorry Sirs,
I do understand this is a volunteer project, but that's not an excuse to mock people having problem with it.

If editing in in Book View is not supported then, pretty please, disable it and make Book View read-only.

Today Sigil became unresponsive and I had to kill it.
Problem was it filled one of the files with 800k+ worth of "#160", choking (almost) to death.
I *might* have edited something while in Book View, but that doesn't seem a valid excuse for this behavior.

As said, if Book View is so buggy, PLEASE disable editing, for user's sake.

DiapDealer · 05-09-2019, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZioNemo

Sorry Sirs,
I do understand this is a volunteer project, but that's not an excuse to mock people having problem with it.

Apologies. We sometimes assume everyone knows this because it's talked about all the time here at the support forums. It's a bit of a mantra: "don't use Book View for editing."

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZioNemo

If editing in in Book View is not supported then, pretty please, disable it and make Book View read-only.

I'll do you one better: the next release of Sigil, will very likely be the last version that has Book View in it at all. After that, it will be gone.

But you can already stop using Book View and use the read-only Preview that has been a part of Sigil for a long, long time. Trying to make Book View read-only would be much more difficult that yanking it completely.

ZioNemo · 05-09-2019, 05:04 PM

Thanks.

I found Preview a bit difficult to use because it resembles less to final aspect, but that's a minor issue.

If you plan to make it the default tool I suggest, if possible, to make it behave as the Book View; I mean: to have a toggle button switching from editing to preview and back, that would make it much less confucing (IMHO, of course).

Thanks.

lumpynose · 05-09-2019, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'll do you one better: the next release of Sigil, will very likely be the last version that has Book View in it at all. After that, it will be gone.

Please keep Preview!

DiapDealer · 05-09-2019, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpynose

Please keep Preview!

Oh god, yes. Preview isn't going anywhere.

KevinH · 05-09-2019, 05:39 PM

And Preview can be zoomed and resized at will. It is also dockable and therefore detachable.

Preview will not be hidden behind CodeView as that would simply defeat the purpose.

BookView is going away but a new standalone app called PageEdit is being actively developed to replace its functionality. It will be possible to launch a page using "Open With" in Sigil.

DiapDealer · 05-09-2019, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZioNemo

Thanks.

I found Preview a bit difficult to use because it resembles less to final aspect, but that's a minor issue.

I'm afraid I don't follow. There's no difference in how Book View renders compared to Preview. Other than being able to edit, there's no difference between the two. They use the exact same QtWebKit renderer.

odamizu · 05-10-2019, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZioNemo

... If you plan to make [Preview] the default tool I suggest, if possible, to make it behave as the Book View; I mean: to have a toggle button switching from editing to preview and back, that would make it much less confucing (IMHO, of course).

What's nice about Preview is you can have it open at the same time as Code View. You don't have to toggle back and forth.

As you type in Code View, the changes are automatically reflected in Preview.

You can have Preview as a docked pane to the right, left, above, or below Code View. Or you can undock it as a floating window.

Thasaidon · 05-10-2019, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'll do you one better: the next release of Sigil, will very likely be the last version that has Book View in it at all. After that, it will be gone.

Yay! Thank you.

Hitch · 05-18-2019, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'll do you one better: the next release of Sigil, will very likely be the last version that has Book View in it at all. After that, it will be gone.

Amen. That will stop a LOT of the "why doesn't this work" issues that we see here all the time and hopefully, will also put a stake in the heart of the whole "gee, this is a word-processor for eBooks" shtick that causes so much grief. Preview works GREAT.

Hitch

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05-05-2019, 11:24 AM	#2
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Lots of strange things happen when editing in Book View. That's why it's highly recommended that you don't do it.

05-05-2019, 11:45 AM	#3
Turtle91 A Hairy Wizard Posts: 3,094 Karma: 18727053 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 11/X/6/iPad 1,2,Air & Air Pro/Surface Pro/Kindle PW & Fire	Perhaps a large sticky..."Problems with editing in Book View"....with a single post "DON'T DO IT"...then close the thread??? lolz

05-09-2019, 03:48 PM	#6
ZioNemo Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: HTC-p3000	Sorry Sirs, I do understand this is a volunteer project, but that's not an excuse to mock people having problem with it. If editing in in Book View is not supported then, pretty please, disable it and make Book View read-only. Today Sigil became unresponsive and I had to kill it. Problem was it filled one of the files with 800k+ worth of "#160", choking (almost) to death. I might have edited something while in Book View, but that doesn't seem a valid excuse for this behavior. As said, if Book View is so buggy, PLEASE disable editing, for user's sake.

05-09-2019, 05:04 PM	#8
ZioNemo Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: HTC-p3000	Thanks. I found Preview a bit difficult to use because it resembles less to final aspect, but that's a minor issue. If you plan to make it the default tool I suggest, if possible, to make it behave as the Book View; I mean: to have a toggle button switching from editing to preview and back, that would make it much less confucing (IMHO, of course). Thanks.

05-09-2019, 05:39 PM	#11
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,644 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	And Preview can be zoomed and resized at will. It is also dockable and therefore detachable. Preview will not be hidden behind CodeView as that would simply defeat the purpose. BookView is going away but a new standalone app called PageEdit is being actively developed to replace its functionality. It will be possible to launch a page using "Open With" in Sigil.

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