05-22-2019, 08:17 AM | #121 | ||
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Second of all, of course the "author" of that "book" is getting paid when you download it and go to the end of the book. That's why they put it up there. With the way Kindle Unlimited paid authors originally, they probably were losing money. With the new way, the author only gets paid a tiny amount each time the recipe is read, since he/she is paid based on the actual number of pages read, and this is probably only 2 pages at most. The amount paid for this "book" is truly minuscule, since the per page rate (for April) is $0.0046601941747573. So the book has to be at least 3 pages for the author to make a penny each time it's read to the end. Third of all, they are absolutely sending offline reading counts "back to base" every time you turn your wifi on. The data is held on the device while wifi is off, then sent the next time you turn the wifi back on. They aren't doing this "behind your back", though, it's right in the terms of service for your device: https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/help/cu...deId=202002080 Quote:
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05-22-2019, 08:29 AM | #122 | |
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A book with no reviews is a total unknown. I personally wouldn't bother with one. I will rely on those with more patience and free time to sort the rare gems from the pile of sludge that makes up the bulk of the KU catalog. In this case I think that it was a smart idea to split a cookbook up into individual recipes. That way a reader does not to wade through a whole book to find the one recipe they are looking for. But I wouldn't bother with one unless it had several good reviews. Last edited by jhowell; 05-22-2019 at 08:38 AM. |
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05-22-2019, 10:41 AM | #123 | |
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Here’s a perfect example DT, that fell into my lap this evening; https://www.amazon.com.au/Darkness-V.../dp/B00BBPVYUS The “look inside” gives you NOTHING! The index is sh*tty and the page count is less than 100 BUT it’s written by an acclaimed author and referred to and quoted in; https://www.amazon.com.au/Darkness-M.../dp/B00QMSCMPU which is one of those binge titles in KU that I’m not ordinarily drawn to; as a perhaps “Christian book” flavour for religious readers. It’s actually really quite good. |
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05-22-2019, 10:44 AM | #125 | |
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….. and for the record ….. I choose NOT to be a beta tester/reviewer for anyone nor will I choose the “self checkout” that some “trained” sheeple are now being roped into at the shops/stores and doing the job for the retailers. |
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05-22-2019, 11:22 AM | #126 | |
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If you don't think that you are getting value for your money then drop the service. If you think they are violating consumer protection laws then refer them to the appropriate government agency or take them to court yourself. |
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05-22-2019, 11:25 AM | #127 |
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^ I totally agree with you, jhowell.
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05-22-2019, 03:22 PM | #128 | |
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So exactly which point are you trying to prove? |
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05-22-2019, 07:37 PM | #129 | |
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I was not the first person to mention author payments scams and alleged page count commissions. I queried the "payments" because it does not make sense to me that Amazon can programme reams and reams of code to provide their mega billion corporation with great profits and power but I'm asked to believe they can't filter out a 1 page "book" and are then also dumb enough to pay the "author" because everyone who clicks on it has technically read the whole book?? And I am now back to being able to Borrow again so I see putting up with crappy books as the "cost of doing business" with Amazon, just like having my data harvested is and just like Spam is the cost using internet email. (Unless you think being spammed is my fault too and that the spammers should be allowed to do so willy nilly) |
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05-22-2019, 07:38 PM | #130 | |
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My point was, that if you look at the 2nd link Darkness Is My Only Companion: A Christian Response to Mental Illness, you'll see that IS a KU title in Australia (I gave the .com.au link) and in that KU book, it refers a few times and quotes from the Darkness Visible title, which I then followed up on. Ergo, your point of ...... .... allows for the opposite position, no reviews, no index does NOT mean that the book is NOT worth reading. Which is what I'm finding, sometimes. |
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05-22-2019, 08:40 PM | #131 |
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@Mistyfarm. The situation is very simple. If you believe consumer law has been violated, take action. All you have to do is pick up the phone or even fill in a form online. You don't have to go to Court. There are cheap convenient tribunals available. Secondly, you now seem to understand the terms and conditions applicable to your use of KU, yet still keep your membership. If you are not happy, leave.
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Post that lists KU payouts for the past few months: https://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,311845.0.html Page on Amazon that explains how KU works for authors: https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G201541130 Just in case you don't feel like following the link to the Amazon page: Quote:
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05-22-2019, 10:43 PM | #133 | |
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05-23-2019, 04:49 AM | #134 |
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What? Leave? And disappoint all my new friends?
Perish the thought! Ouch! I’ll add that to the list of names so far, shall I? But just to point out a “minor” fact. I have only made very few unprompted posts. Most of my 40+ posts have been from the back foot answering barbs and dodging arrows……. just sayin’ |
05-23-2019, 04:52 AM | #135 |
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Actually I’m willing to stay subscribed with my KU membership for a while longer, now that they’ve restored access AND I finally have some truth and info about the boundaries. I can live with that.
But you raise a good side point …….. Hands up everyone here who actually has an active KU subscription? |
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