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But--and we've tested this, more than once--when we need to take a PDF to "Word," the cleaner result is pretty much always via Abbyy. Yes, the amount of work sucks, and all that, but at least what I get out, directly into Word, isn't quite as disastrous, under the skin, as the "open PDF in Word" method. I mean...pehaps you mean that you take the resulting Word file and you clean it up, and then export it to HTML. When I take the 2-col PDF that you've so kindly provided as a sample, put it into Word 2016, and export that result to HTML, it ain't pretty. At my company, we have a visual that we give to our clients; we tell them that their books/projects are like icebergs. They and their readers all look at the part that's above the waterline. We are simply concerned with what's below the waterline. When I view the part below the waterline in these files--particularly the more-complex example--I'm reasonably sure that I'd get a cleaner result if it had run through Abbyy. Now, as I've said here more than once, different courses for different horses. Everybody has their OWN way of getting to Point X. And everybody's Point X is different, too. There's only one place that has any "jurisdiction" over our work, and that's the IDPF's ePUBcheck. And even then...well, we all know that tune. If this works for you, I think that's great. I received a half-disastrous FICTION book (yes, simple fiction) from a major agency, this past summer, that they'd tried to do by this method, for one of their author clients. I'd have thought that if this worked smoothly, they wouldn't have needed us, but...{shrug}. Who knows? Like I said...different horses. Glad it's working for you. For whatever reason, I don't think it really works for us. Hitch |
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12-23-2016, 02:12 PM | #17 |
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you do know that Willis is an expert on PDF (IMHO). He converted the 2 column to a single column first off to clean up the text for conversion. See his posts in the PDF group where he is a programmer as well. Everyone has a right to their opinion but you are not dealing with a newbie in this case.
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12-23-2016, 05:10 PM | #18 |
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Thank you, Dale. I'm not sure expert is the word, as I haven't made a dime off of any work on PDFs, unlike Hitch, who is a professional in the field.
Hitch, I think you're super smart and I have no doubt you are good at what you do, but remember that this thread was started by a self-admitted newbie who said they have books in PDF form that they'd like to move to their kindle. Your angle is the "this is how you publish a professional e-book" angle, and your standards are high. This is one view point, and it's great that you share your experience in the field--many of us learn a great deal from it--but it's not necessarily the best solution and certainly not the only solution available to the OP and/or other people who might be reading this thread, so I offered another solution (for PDFs). Throwing ABBYY Fine Reader at a PDF is great, but I think it's fair to say that it is a niche product (outside the publishing world, anyway) for power users. On the other hand, MS Word is a de-facto standard tool that a lot of people already have and know how to use and don't even realize will read PDF files, which is why I posted. Not only does MS Word read PDF files, it does an amazingly good job (my opinion) of turning them into editable source content, which opens the door to a lot of flexibility in what you then do with that content. |
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We've received I-don't-know-how-many "Word" files over the years, the results of scanning, of those Websites ("Convert your PDF file to Word now!"), and of course, "save PDF as..." results, that I have an adverse reaction to anything that comes from "insta--" anything. That, however, is my baggage. And, hell, I've been wrong before. (I know, I know...INCONCEIVABLE! Where's Wally Shawn, when you need him?) Quote:
So, yes, I misspoke. My sincere apologies. I was all focused on what I've seen, in those types of outputs, and what it would take to go directly from the Word file to HTML, without someone's guiding hand. I should have thought about it in the larger scheme. Hitch |
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12-23-2016, 05:52 PM | #20 |
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You are passionate about what you do, and nobody should fault you for that. Thank you for the thoughtful post. Your points are valid and well taken.
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