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Old 09-20-2021, 09:02 PM   #31
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I just went to Amazon and did a search for mini USB cables. It's not hard at all to find them. In fact, it's very very easy. Mini USB will be the same.
I just typed in "mini usb" (without the quotes) and got pages of them.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=mini+usb&ref=nb_sb_noss
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Old 09-20-2021, 09:05 PM   #32
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I meant, try finding one in a bricks and mortar retailer, I can walk into a gas station and buy a Lightning, MicroUSB, or USB-C cable. Strangely absent is MiniUSB.
I was getting miniUSB mixed up with microUSB, sorry for my nonsensical posts. You're right about brick & mortar stores and miniUSB cables Ś though I still find them fairly easily at thrift stores.
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Likewise, I think we may never see a new Oasis. It is the latest high-priced Kindle to die of insufficiently robust sales, following the venerable Voyage and DXG before that.
We're still gonna have the Oasis, the premium build quality and buttons are why. But they're introducing 4G LTE data as standard on the Oasis to help justify the price. Also, the slightly bigger screen.
What I really want is the return of the DX size but with enhanced notetaking and a stylus.
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Old 09-20-2021, 09:08 PM   #34
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No they don't have the same screen. The PW4hasa 6" screen and the PW Premium has a 6.8" screen.
Not according to the leaked graphics on the Amazon sites in Mexico and Canada. Both have 6.8" screens, warm light and 17 LEDs.

EDIT: Looks like I already responded to this post once before. I'm really having a "red letter day." I probably should back away slowly and quietly exit before I cause more damage.
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Old 09-21-2021, 03:47 AM   #35
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I wonder if the PW4 is on it's way out.
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Old 09-21-2021, 04:16 AM   #36
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What do you mean by "the Oasis concept"? The irregular shape has been around for 5,5 years and Kobo, for example, has copied it for their premium readers. If you mean the charging cover, that was abandoned after the Oasis 1. But not the shape.

I certainly hope the wedge shape stays along with physical buttons. Don't like the regularly shaped ereaders. They were never ergonomic enough for me.
The concept of the Oasis was "a reader with detachable cover (battery)", making it lightweight and ergomomic.

Amazon ditched the battery cover with the Oasis 2, like you said. And shortly after they ditched detachable covers all together, after their design flaw with the magnets that were too weak.

So the current Oasis is neither particulary leightweight (it weighs almost the same as the Kobo Libra H2O), nor is it ergonomic, at least not when used with a case. (When you flip the cover around, the backside becomes flat.)

So why hold on to this concept?
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Old 09-21-2021, 07:02 AM   #37
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They need to stop selling a 167 dpi Kindle. The current Basic is a pig with lipstick.
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and it has adjustable warm-light feature too, as per the screenshot.
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:40 AM   #39
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They need to stop selling a 167 dpi Kindle. The current Basic is a pig with lipstick.
Don't get me wrong, it'd probably be better with 300 ppi, but to someone not terribly sensitive to pixel density, I find my basic kindle to have a subjectively better looking screen than my PW4. (better contrast? less glare?)

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Old 09-21-2021, 08:46 AM   #40
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The concept of the Oasis was "a reader with detachable cover (battery)", making it lightweight and ergomomic.

Amazon ditched the battery cover with the Oasis 2, like you said. And shortly after they ditched detachable covers all together, after their design flaw with the magnets that were too weak.

So the current Oasis is neither particulary leightweight (it weighs almost the same as the Kobo Libra H2O), nor is it ergonomic, at least not when used with a case. (When you flip the cover around, the backside becomes flat.)

So why hold on to this concept?
Physical page turn buttons is what sets the Oasis (any old Voyage) apart. I do not like to smudge up my screen or accidentally turn pages. I suspect I am not alone in this department. If they have physical turn buttons with this new device (on both sides like on a Voyage) then it is compelling for me as I suspect it would not be as wide as my Oasis and more pocket friendly.
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The new paperwhite has appeared on Amazon.de-Pages. Text in German
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08N3TCP2F?th=1 (Paperwhite 11)

As described before:
6,8 inch display mostly due to smaller bezels
USB-C-Charging
300 dpi, adjustable colour temperature, 10 % brighter
10 weeks battery life
8 GB memory
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slightly larger than PW10: 174 mm x 125 mm x 8,1 mm, 205 g (PW11), PW10 was 167 x 116 x 8,18 mm and 182 g.

Signature edition
Same, plus
- wireless charging
- 32 GB
- auto-adjusting light

Prices are 130/150 Euros (with/without ads) and 190 Euros (no ads) for the signature edition

Shipping from Oct 27 / Nov 10 (PW11 / signature)

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now on the US site

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KTZ8249...=theverge02-20

*link is from The Verge as I couldn't find it advertised on Amazon's site, haha.

EDIT: checked with Amazon, the current 10th gen Oasis is NOT eligible for trade in.

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now on the US site

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KTZ8249...=theverge02-20

*link is from The Verge as I couldn't find it advertised on Amazon's site, haha.

EDIT: checked with Amazon, the current 10th gen Oasis is NOT eligible for trade in.
That is nuts. I think the Trade-in matrix is messed up. It says my PW4 gets Ĺup to $30ĺ gift card but when I try it it only offers $5. Itĺs in perfect condition, how would I ever get $30?
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And supposedly it's now listed on Amazon India. I suspect Amazon gave up on keeping this new Kindle a secret.
https://reddit.com/r/kindle/comments...e_preorded_it/
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Interesting. Like many others, I must have page turn buttons. Those are an absolute deal breaker. Hopefully down the line they'll add the wireless charging, but again, not important to me as long as I have page buttons.

And the non symmetrical shape has been around since the very first kindle. The K1 has a wedge shape, and buttons of course. I read on it yesterday just to see if it still works.

I don't find the new Oasis too heavy, although I preferred the smaller oasis as far as weight goes, but it didn't last long without the cover. I don't read my new Oasis with any cover, that would defeat the whole purpose of the ergonomically wedge. Its so much more comfortable to hold and change pages. Flat things like paperwhites slip out of my hand as I have to move my thumb over so constantly have to change my wrist position. I sometimes even have this issue with the Voyage because the buttons are in a very small area for me so its hard to grip without cramps for too long. Great screen on it though.

I might get my husband a new paperwhite for xmas. He is still using the very first one that came out I bought and hated because of lack of buttons. And screen isn't too great. He doesn't care though. But I think its not holding a charge as it used to.
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