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Old 06-07-2019, 12:59 PM   #1
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What is a perfect procedure for generate a amazon kindle mobi file?

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Everyone I am new in Amazon kindle formatting whenever I convert ms word file into mobi file via Calibre software i have lost all formatting especially Title page formatting, TOC shape , and some times Main headings also so which way will be easy for converting ms word file in to mobi file.
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There is no perfect one-size-fits-all solution. MOBI is a format with several variants with different capabilities. Other Kindle formats also exist. It would help if you would share your goals.

Do you want to sideload to a Kindle via USB or would you like OTA delivery? Do you want your reading position, notes, highlights, and collection membership to be backed up and synced across multiple devices? Is seeing the correct cover image thumbnail on your device important to you? Do you want to take advantage of Enhanced Typesetting features? Anything else?
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:22 PM   #3
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:26 PM   #4
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There is no perfect solution.

That said, check out this sticky in the E-Book Formats > Workshop section:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=295102

Keep in mind that final formatting should not be done in a word processing app (e.g. MS Word, ...), but instead done in an appropriate editor (e.g. Sigil, calibre's Editor, ...) after conversion to an editable ebook format (e.g. ePub, AZW3).

Also "mobi" generally refers to the older and extremely limited MobiPocket format, which Amazon acquired years ago. For modern Kindles (Kindle Keyboard and newer) and Fire Tablets the newer AZW3 format is generally prefered. The older mobi format (aka KF8) has far fewer formatting options than newer formats and a lot of formatting will be stripped out when converting to the old mobi/KF8 format.
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Also "mobi" generally refers to the older and extremely limited MobiPocket format, which Amazon acquired years ago. For modern Kindles (Kindle Keyboard and newer) and Fire Tablets the newer AZW3 format is generally prefered. The older mobi format (aka KF8) has far fewer formatting options than newer formats and a lot of formatting will be stripped out when converting to the old mobi/KF8 format.
You’re getting a little confused. The “old” mobi format is mobi format 7. The “newer” mobi format is KF8, aka “AZW3”. The very, very newest mobi format is KFX.
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How does it look when you convert it to AZW3?
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I forgot to even consider whether it is for your own use or to be published on Amazon.

And in some cases the language of the book may also be relevant.
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You’re getting a little confused. The “old” mobi format is mobi format 7. The “newer” mobi format is KF8, aka “AZW3”. The very, very newest mobi format is KFX.
Thanks for catching that. I "slipped a digit" there.
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Thanks for catching that. I "slipped a digit" there.
Moreover, unless someone is making it solely for their own device, the AZW3 info isn't useful. You can't build an AZW3 file that will be sold at Amazon. You can build a MOBI. You can build an ePUB. You can upload a zipped HTML file, or a Word file or a kpf file. But you can't upload an AZW or AZW3 file.

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Moreover, unless someone is making it solely for their own device, the AZW3 info isn't useful. You can't build an AZW3 file that will be sold at Amazon. You can build a MOBI. You can build an ePUB. You can upload a zipped HTML file, or a Word file or a kpf file. But you can't upload an AZW or AZW3 file.

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That's interesting and good to know, even though I don't plan on writing or selling any books. Is the reason because an AZW3 doesn't work? I.e., their uploading page won't accept it? Duh, answered my own question by going to this page:

https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200634390
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Since I am a strong believer in making books available not only through Amazon but also through Kobo, Apple, Barnes & Noble, and lesser booksellers, I build my book as an epub using the free and excellent Sigil software. It converts wonderfully well on the KDP platform and also, of course, at Amazon's rivals, all of whom use the universal epub format.
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There is no perfect one-size-fits-all solution. MOBI is a format with several variants with different capabilities. Other Kindle formats also exist. It would help if you would share your goals.

Do you want to sideload to a Kindle via USB or would you like OTA delivery? Do you want your reading position, notes, highlights, and collection membership to be backed up and synced across multiple devices? Is seeing the correct cover image thumbnail on your device important to you? Do you want to take advantage of Enhanced Typesetting features? Anything else?
Actually i want to learn professional level formatting for Amazon Kindle, The title page of book should be appeared same as like i designed it on MS Word and author of book also approved that format but when i convert MS Word document in to Mobi or Epub Title page and TOC become different and undesirably format that me and Author final in MS Word formatting.
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How does it look when you convert it to AZW3?
awz3 format more worse than mobi and epub
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Actually i want to learn professional level formatting for Amazon Kindle, The title page of book should be appeared same as like i designed it on MS Word and author of book also approved that format but when i convert MS Word document in to Mobi or Epub Title page and TOC become different and undesirably format that me and Author final in MS Word formatting.
It takes time, learning and skill to achieve that, and you will NOT do it in Word. You must learn HTML/CSS and how to work in ePUB, in order to do what you wish to do. I've been doing this a decade, and it took me...gosh, about a year to learn to really make the books look the way I want, AND build proper, clean, well-formatted eBooks.

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