PW2 collections issue / Kobo Aura?

JFHey · 12-11-2013, 08:00 PM

Hi folks,

I own a Kindle Touch and always loved it.
Now I wanted to upgrade to a device with light.
I got a bit insecure, reading about issues with the new firmware 5.4.2 for PW2 and problems with collections.
I have a few purchased amazon books, and more sideloaded (via the kindle email-adress). I did store them in collections, but wouldn't have a problem rearranging them into collections of neccessary.

I didn't fully understand these issues with the new firmware: does the pw2 case problems with sideloaded books? Or are they not stored in the cloud and synced anymore?

On another hand: I was considering the Kobo Aura, since I imagine that I can use dropbox to keep the books and highlights in sync, and read across multiple devices using dropbox. Is that correct, or do I imagine it too easy?

HarryT · 12-12-2013, 05:30 AM

Sideloaded books have never been stored in the Cloud. That's what "sideloaded" means.

Josieb1 · 12-12-2013, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFHey

Hi folks,

I own a Kindle Touch and always loved it.
Now I wanted to upgrade to a device with light.
I got a bit insecure, reading about issues with the new firmware 5.4.2 for PW2 and problems with collections.
I have a few purchased amazon books, and more sideloaded (via the kindle email-adress). I did store them in collections, but wouldn't have a problem rearranging them into collections of neccessary.

I didn't fully understand these issues with the new firmware: does the pw2 case problems with sideloaded books? Or are they not stored in the cloud and synced anymore?

On another hand: I was considering the Kobo Aura, since I imagine that I can use dropbox to keep the books and highlights in sync, and read across multiple devices using dropbox. Is that correct, or do I imagine it too easy?

I have a Paperwhite 1 not a 2 but I don't think the 2 treats books you send to kindle any differently. The side loaded books you send to Amazon are treated by Amazon and the Kindle as if they were Amazon books and are stored in the Cloud. The only difference is they are Personal Documents not Books. They still sync as they always did.

I have a Kobo Aura, I load my books via Calibre into Collections (Calibre has a plug in that's works great for this). I also load the odd book via Dropbox using the browser and that also works fine.

The screen on the Paperwhite is slightly better that the Aura's but I do love my Aura.

Josieb1 · 12-12-2013, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Sideloaded books have never been stored in the Cloud. That's what "sideloaded" means.

Harry the OP uses the 'kindle email address' for 'side loaded' books so I assume they are emailed to Amazon in which case they are they will be stored in the Cloud.

That's what I do. I never load my Paperwhite via Calibre or by drag and drop, I always email my books to Amazon, it's easier that way.

HarryT · 12-12-2013, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

Harry the OP uses the 'kindle email address' for 'side loaded' books so I assume they are emailed to Amazon in which case they are they will be stored in the Cloud.

That's what I do. I never load my Paperwhite via Calibre or by drag and drop, I always email my books to Amazon, it's easier that way.

In that case, the books are not side-loaded. Side-loaded means "transferred via USB".

Josieb1 · 12-12-2013, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

In that case, the books are not side-loaded. Side-loaded means "transferred via USB".

I know, it's a terminology thing. Even I use the word 'sideload' to mean anything not purchased from Amazon.

We need to come up with a word for 'I bought it from somewhere else and emailed it to Amazon'

booklover6 · 12-12-2013, 08:26 AM

I think the term is personal documents.

HarryT · 12-12-2013, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by booklover6

I think the term is personal documents.

Yes, it is indeed.

JFHey · 12-12-2013, 07:25 PM

Hey guys, thanks a lot for your answers!

Yes, sorry for the terminology confusion. I did mean Personal Documents, sent via the amazon email address.

The only important thing for me is that the all the highlights that I put get synced all across my devices, and that I can export them (f.ex. to Evernote via clippings manager).

Thanks for letting me know that the PW2 is still doing that. i had been afraid for a moment.

How is it with the Aura and syncing of highlights and annotations via dropbox? Does it work well, or is it complicated?

tomsem · 12-13-2013, 01:05 AM

Well, if you download a book from a web site to your kindle it behaves exactly the same as if it were transferred over the USB cable. I would consider those 'side loaded' as well.

Josieb1 · 12-13-2013, 04:21 AM

I can't help with highlighting I'm afraid, I only download a book from Dropbox to the Aura.

JFHey · 12-14-2013, 10:43 AM

ok thanks all for your help!

In the meantime, I got the Kindle for Android app running on my mac with the emulator "Genymotion". Thus, I have personal documents and whispersync on my mac.

Lady Stardust · 12-17-2013, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFHey

Hey guys, thanks a lot for your answers!

Yes, sorry for the terminology confusion. I did mean Personal Documents, sent via the amazon email address.

The only important thing for me is that the all the highlights that I put get synced all across my devices, and that I can export them (f.ex. to Evernote via clippings manager).

Thanks for letting me know that the PW2 is still doing that. i had been afraid for a moment.

How is it with the Aura and syncing of highlights and annotations via dropbox? Does it work well, or is it complicated?

I have Aura HD and Kindles 3, PW1 and PW2. I don't sync highlights but I still don't understand how highlighting works on Aura. On Kindles I can highlight several pages if I want to. On Aura HD I still haven't managed to highlight a sentence which starts on one page and ends on another, which is very irritating. You might want to check this and other bugs in Kobo forums before you decide on purchasing Kobo.

JFHey · 12-17-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Stardust

On Aura HD I still haven't managed to highlight a sentence which starts on one page and ends on another,

Thanks for your reply, I think that is enough information for me to confirm my decision for PW2

Katsunami · 12-18-2013, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josieb1

We need to come up with a word for 'I bought it from somewhere else and emailed it to Amazon'

"I bought it from somewhere else and emailed it to Amazon" -> "send-loading"

12-11-2013, 08:00 PM	#1
JFHey Enthusiast Posts: 41 Karma: 35710 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Earth Device: KT, PW2, KO2	PW2 collections issue / Kobo Aura? Hi folks, I own a Kindle Touch and always loved it. Now I wanted to upgrade to a device with light. I got a bit insecure, reading about issues with the new firmware 5.4.2 for PW2 and problems with collections. I have a few purchased amazon books, and more sideloaded (via the kindle email-adress). I did store them in collections, but wouldn't have a problem rearranging them into collections of neccessary. I didn't fully understand these issues with the new firmware: does the pw2 case problems with sideloaded books? Or are they not stored in the cloud and synced anymore? On another hand: I was considering the Kobo Aura, since I imagine that I can use dropbox to keep the books and highlights in sync, and read across multiple devices using dropbox. Is that correct, or do I imagine it too easy?

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12-12-2013, 05:30 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Sideloaded books have never been stored in the Cloud. That's what "sideloaded" means.

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12-12-2013, 07:25 PM	#9
JFHey Enthusiast Posts: 41 Karma: 35710 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Earth Device: KT, PW2, KO2	Hey guys, thanks a lot for your answers! Yes, sorry for the terminology confusion. I did mean Personal Documents, sent via the amazon email address. The only important thing for me is that the all the highlights that I put get synced all across my devices, and that I can export them (f.ex. to Evernote via clippings manager). Thanks for letting me know that the PW2 is still doing that. i had been afraid for a moment. How is it with the Aura and syncing of highlights and annotations via dropbox? Does it work well, or is it complicated?

12-13-2013, 01:05 AM	#10
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,478 Karma: 26425959 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	Well, if you download a book from a web site to your kindle it behaves exactly the same as if it were transferred over the USB cable. I would consider those 'side loaded' as well.

12-13-2013, 04:21 AM	#11
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,015 Karma: 18018738 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo Forma, Libra2, Clara 2e, Kindle PW SE & Kindle 2022	I can't help with highlighting I'm afraid, I only download a book from Dropbox to the Aura.

12-14-2013, 10:43 AM	#12
JFHey Enthusiast Posts: 41 Karma: 35710 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Earth Device: KT, PW2, KO2	ok thanks all for your help! In the meantime, I got the Kindle for Android app running on my mac with the emulator "Genymotion". Thus, I have personal documents and whispersync on my mac.

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