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Old 09-08-2018, 03:23 PM   #16
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Old 09-08-2018, 06:16 PM   #17
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They were new for the link I posted and when I posted it. I assumed Amazon doesn't sell used items (items shipped from and sold by Amazon).
I think of refurbished items as a form of used items.
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:25 AM   #18
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I think of refurbished items as a form of used items.
I can agree with that, maybe my statement should have read "I believe Amazon only sells New or Refurbished ..."

But I may be wrong, going through my previous link and through more sellers, there are some marked used in various conditions being sold by "Amazon Warehouse".
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:36 AM   #19
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Trade in Deals & people Not liking the product ALL are considered Refurbished / Used
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:08 AM   #20
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anything sold as an amazon warehouse deal ( in the UK ) is classed as "used". I learned that the hard way from a warranty dispute with the manufacturer over a missing part.that was an essential bracket for an outdoor childs swing frame The Manufacturer refused to provide it. they also refused to register me for the 5 year warranty against wood rot and would not explain why some one having opened the box & returned the swing, unassembled, should invalidate that.
The one year of cover that you expect here on any new from a shop item does not apply to warehouse deals, not even the " like new" ones that claim to be a new thing in a scuffed box.
Legally, amazon warehouse is a seaparate company with a very misleading name. you do still get good CS when you report that items are damaged or have missing parts though. I have accepted several partial refunds for their mistakes ( like a pair of dumbbells where only a single one arrived! )

I bought a "used" tin of paint one time also which was OK, though their CS did not get the joke when I asked beforehand if it had been carefully scraped off the wall and put back in the tin....
I would not buy anything high value/ electronic from warehouse, as saving a few pounds in exchange for only getting 90 day cover is not attractive. Used paint is OK though

PS. after typing all that, I could not resist checking amazon warehouse deals for used condoms..... I kid you not, they have those also

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Old 09-09-2018, 01:24 PM   #21
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They were new for the link I posted and when I posted it. I assumed Amazon doesn't sell used items (items shipped from and sold by Amazon).
I checked the link you posted again today and the Voyage is for sale by Amazon without special offers for $219. Amazon does not sell refurbished or used Kindles for full price. It appears you can still get a new Voyage (without special offers) from Amazon and not the warehouse.
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Old 09-09-2018, 01:44 PM   #22
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I checked the link you posted again today and the Voyage is for sale by Amazon without special offers for $219. Amazon does not sell refurbished or used Kindles for full price. It appears you can still get a new Voyage (without special offers) from Amazon and not the warehouse.
I think what John F meant is that he considers refurbished Kindles to be used Kindles. I think he mentioned that he could follow the links to buy new Voyages directly from Amazon (in all configurations except for WiFi only with special offers).
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Old 09-09-2018, 01:47 PM   #23
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But I may be wrong, going through my previous link and through more sellers, there are some marked used in various conditions being sold by "Amazon Warehouse".
The few times I've bought something used via Amazon Warehouse it's been like new with damaged packaging. Not that it has to be that way, I've just been lucky — only tried a few times.
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Old 09-09-2018, 01:55 PM   #24
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I think what John F meant is that he considers refurbished Kindles to be used Kindles. I think he mentioned that he could follow the links to buy new Voyages directly from Amazon (in all configurations except for WiFi only with special offers).
I think that is what I said. I'm supporting his link - it does lead to new Voyages for sale by Amazon(and not by third party sellers, refurbished or the warehouse).
I too consider refurbished Kindles to be used Kindles.
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:46 PM   #25
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I think that is what I said. I'm supporting his link - it does lead to new Voyages for sale by Amazon(and not by third party sellers, refurbished or the warehouse).
I too consider refurbished Kindles to be used Kindles.
Okay. I'm sorry. I guess I didn't follow the post as well as I should have. My apologies.
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Now new Voyages (the $200 version) show up again in a search on Amazon. You can now buy via One-Click for delivery by the 21st.
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Now new Voyages (the $200 version) show up again in a search on Amazon. You can now buy via One-Click for delivery by the 21st.
Good news. I can’t decide whether to order one or hold out in case a new version will be coming out.
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Now, supposedly, new ($200) Voyages directly from Amazon can be delivered by Thursday ("available to ship in one to two days"). I wonder what it will say in another five hours? I'm beginning to think they're just yanking our chains.
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