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Old 08-29-2019, 02:35 AM   #1
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E-ink device to replace new Kindle Oasis

I have been a long time Kindle user and recently purchased a new Kindle Oasis. I was thinking of moving to another e-reader but the process of moving several hundred books from Kindle with highlights and notes seemed too cumbersome.

However I read some threads on how Amazon extensively tracks all reading activity. I read books like Trillion Dollar Coach but certainly don't like the prospect of someone staring down my back as I read.


With that in mind, I decided to buy a new non-Kindle e-reader for new books I buy and will keep kindle books on the kindle. This way I don't have to worry about importing all my old kindle books

Here are my thoughts for an e-reader
1) Large 8" E-ink screen and flat device (no protruding battery like Oasis)
2) Warm lighting
3) Used mainly to read e-books
4) Android app which has stable sync for notes and highlights - so that I can read on my phone as well. I have read some forums where syncing to apps is glitchy for some devices. This is pretty important for me
5) Easy ability to buy new ebooks without connecting USB cable to computer

Here is my shortlist
1) Kobo
2) Pocketbook

What would your opinion be, especially in terms of robustness of reliable syncing ability with Android app?

That's one thing which I really like about Kindle - syncing between Kindle and phone apps is seamless and rock solid 100% of the time in 7 years with over 300 books and 200 emailed personal docs

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I don't see how you can have syncing of reading position between devices without also have someone staring down your back as you read, whether it's Amazon, Kobo or some third party.
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Old 08-29-2019, 09:04 AM   #3
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I don't see how you can have syncing of reading position between devices without also have someone staring down your back as you read, whether it's Amazon, Kobo or some third party.
Exactly.

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I have a Kobo reader that I like. But I don't sync. I suggest asking in the Kobo forum how well it syncs between the Kobo and the Kobo app for Android.

The problem with syncing is that you end up having to keep WiFi on. That drains the battery faster. Personally, I would have different books on the Reader and on the app. That way, you don't need WiFi on and you don't have to worry about syncing. It's not hard to have two different book on the go.
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I have a Kobo reader that I like. But I don't sync. I suggest asking in the Kobo forum how well it syncs between the Kobo and the Kobo app for Android.

The problem with syncing is that you end up having to keep WiFi on. .
the low tech solution of always reading up to a chapter end, and remembering which chapter also works well

another trick I have seen suggested is you write down the last 3 or 4 words of the sentence where you stopped, then search for that fragment on the other device.
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:56 PM   #6
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Or remembering the loc or page number.
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Or remembering the loc or page number.
yes but not all books and apps have page numbers, or compute pages the same way , so I recommended something safer.

could be that page numbers will be fine between kobo's own reader and their android app though
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could be that page numbers will be fine between kobo's own reader and their android app though
The location I think it's best suited for the kindle between devices/ereaders, but I would go for your chapter suggestion.
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I have a Kobo reader that I like. But I don't sync. I suggest asking in the Kobo forum how well it syncs between the Kobo and the Kobo app for Android.

The problem with syncing is that you end up having to keep WiFi on.
That drains the battery faster. Personally, I would have different books on the Reader and on the app. That way, you don't need WiFi on and you don't have to worry about syncing. It's not hard to have two different book on the go.
Can't you have WiFi off, read, turn on wifi, hit sync, turn wifi off, and the last page read would be correct on your next device?
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Old 08-29-2019, 03:50 PM   #10
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Appreciate all the thoughts.

- However syncing is important to me and battery drain is not an issue with leaving WiFi on. I frequently read books on the phone as well and it's important not have the highlights and notes sync across platforms. The page location suggestion is great but I am more concerned about syncing notes and highlights

- Also the larger screens on the other devices make it much more like a book

Which of the two tablets would you recommend in terms of syncing of Android app and ease with which it can be set up for syncing?

- Pocketbook
- Kobo

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Can't you have WiFi off, read, turn on wifi, hit sync, turn wifi off, and the last page read would be correct on your next device?
Yes you can, but that's a real hassle.
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As I've said before, ask about syning with Kobo in the Kobo form as you'll get answers from those that do sync. I don't have any need to sync as I read a different eBook on my iPhone/iPad and Kobo.
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Appreciate all the thoughts.

- However syncing is important to me and battery drain is not an issue with leaving WiFi on. I frequently read books on the phone as well and it's important not have the highlights and notes sync across platforms. The page location suggestion is great but I am more concerned about syncing notes and highlights
As others have said, that contradicts not wanting someone else viewing what you are reading. And as much of a Kobo fan that I am, if this is what you need to do, then stick with Kindles.
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- Also the larger screens on the other devices make it much more like a book
I have seen that comment a lot of times here. I find it very weird. For the life of me, I cannot work out why anyone would want to make the ereader experience "more like a book". Beyond, "present the words to me so I can read", I don't have any need for an ereader to emulate a book. Why would I want to turn off the ability to change the font or size, search the book, tap a word and see it's meaning or all the other things that a paper book just can't do?

And if all you are talking about is the page size, the paperback or hardcover? And exactly which page size in them. My bookshelves are very untidy as no two books are the same size.
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Which of the two tablets would you recommend in terms of syncing of Android app and ease with which it can be set up for syncing?

- Pocketbook
- Kobo
Using the word "tablet" above is a bit strange. Kobo's devices are dedicated ereaders. They don't have much other function on them. Kobo does have apps for both Android and iOS, so you can use them there. But, Kobo only syncs for books purchased from them. They will sync book status and annotations between the devices and the apps, but only for purchased books. There is no way to sync over WiFi for sideloaded books. And they don't have the email-to-device that Amazon has.

I don't know Pocketbook, so I can't comment.

Tolino do have syncing of sideloaded books. The epos is a nice 7.8" e-ink device. But they are only sold in some countries, so getting one could be hard. I haven't tried their Android app, so I don't know what will sync to it.
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Here is my shortlist
1) Kobo
2) Pocketbook
I really like and use the buttons on the side on the kobo. On the PocketBook Touch HD 3 the buttons are at the bottom and not convenient to use.
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I always want wifi on on my ereaders so I can look up things on Wikipedia. I look things up all the time as I read. I read just novels and my guess is that people who read no-fiction would want to do that even more.

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