07-05-2010, 09:44 PM | #31 | ||
Guru
Posts: 687
Karma: 5700000
Join Date: Dec 2009
Device: kindle
|
Quote:
Not only is $275 the DIY cost, it comes with the sucker fee... err, the early adopter premium. There's no way I bite at that cost (of course I never pay retail for anything), however, if PQ ever gets into a high volume product, even the DIY cost should come down. They aren't going to do special runs for us, just tack on a few extra thousand screens to an order. The bigger the commercial orders, the better we all fare. A swivel netbook with some bezel buttons or trackpad (for page turning) would be better though. Either way, I love that they kept their promise to DIYers, because one wonders if there will ever be a commercial PQ product for us. Quote:
I get about 5 hours off my 6 cell battery (was 5.5 when the battery was new) with the screen at the firmware minimum backlight. If I could get another hour or so, that would be a big deal to me. If I used a 3 cell, it would be an even bigger deal. |
||
07-07-2010, 02:18 AM | #32 | |
Zealot
Posts: 143
Karma: 880
Join Date: Jun 2010
Device: Pandigital Novel
|
Quote:
Bigger commercial orders will mean lower prices both because of volume and improved production models. Their business model how ever does not require building a one hundred million dollar plant to produce the screens. I suspect the difference between screens today and a year down the road will not be as great as with most other products and she implied that the OLPC price will get much closer to $100.00 using the Pixel Qi. |
|
Advert | |
|
07-07-2010, 02:55 AM | #33 |
eBook Enthusiast
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383043
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
|
|
07-07-2010, 03:16 AM | #34 |
Addict
Posts: 311
Karma: 547600
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Paris
Device: Kindle Keyboard, Kindle NT, PRS-650
|
Something very unclear to me is (sorry for the newbee question) : how does the PixelQi compare to the E-ink technology in terms of ease of reading ? Because it seems to me the PixelQi is more or less an ordinary LCD screen which backlight you can disable. So that leads to another question : what exactly makes the E-Ink screen more easy to the eye than a regular LCD ?
|
07-07-2010, 03:29 AM | #35 |
eBook Enthusiast
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383043
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
|
The fact that it doesn't emit light. It's just like reading from a piece of (rather grey) paper. Quality with current eInk screens is rather better than newsprint - perhaps comparable to a rather cheaply-printed paperback.
|
Advert | |
|
07-07-2010, 04:34 AM | #36 |
Addict
Posts: 311
Karma: 547600
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Paris
Device: Kindle Keyboard, Kindle NT, PRS-650
|
Thanks for the answer...I thought there was something else like whiter background, or the display technology involved. But it's rather good news, it seems then a tablet PC with PixelQI kind of screen could be a good regular PC, and a good e-Reader too, there doesn't seem to be any drawback there...Seems there's not much future for E-Ink devices.
|
07-07-2010, 06:54 AM | #37 |
Wizard
Posts: 4,538
Karma: 264065402
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Taiwan
Device: HP Touchpad, Sony Duo 13, Lumia 920, Kobo Aura HD
|
Actually, nobody has ever used the Pixel Qi and reported back here. My take is that it is a compromise solution that offers a so-so B&W reading screen and a rather poor color screen. I would be happy if someone can tell me otherwise. Still, an interesting idea.
|
07-07-2010, 07:36 AM | #38 |
eBook Enthusiast
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383043
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
|
I certainly wouldn't say that. The key benefit of an eInk screen is the fact that it only uses power when it's changing the displayed image - it uses no power at all to maintain a static image. It's therefore perfect for a bookreader, where the same image is on display for long periods of time, with only an occasional change. Such devices can run for weeks with a small battery when using an eInk screen.
|
07-07-2010, 10:48 AM | #39 |
Disgusted with LDBoblo
Posts: 84
Karma: 166
Join Date: Aug 2008
Device: nook
|
I've yet to actually see one of these screens, so I cannot tell if it suffers the same surface reflectivity problems of other LCD screens. High contrast in bright light with low power usage is all good and well, but I can turn up the backlighting and get good contrast with my Nokia, and yet still the reflections on the surface make it as annoying as a politician to use outdoors. E-ink screens have a matte surface with almost NO surface reflectivity.
Last edited by ThomasMc; 07-07-2010 at 10:52 AM. |
07-07-2010, 11:50 AM | #40 | |
Wizard
Posts: 1,385
Karma: 16056
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Asia
Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Sony PRS-505
|
Quote:
|
|
07-07-2010, 12:14 PM | #41 | |
Wizard
Posts: 4,293
Karma: 529619
Join Date: May 2007
Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG
|
Quote:
You're right though, "normal" people haven't really seen these in real life yet. It's hard to tell how good/bad they are from press reports. |
|
07-07-2010, 12:17 PM | #42 | |
Wizard
Posts: 4,293
Karma: 529619
Join Date: May 2007
Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG
|
Quote:
|
|
07-07-2010, 12:23 PM | #43 |
eBook Enthusiast
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383043
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
|
If that is indeed the case, then it would certainly concern me, too. Unfortunately I've not yet had the opportunity to see one of these screens for real; I look forward to doing so.
|
07-07-2010, 12:33 PM | #44 |
Zealot
Posts: 107
Karma: 369
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Italy
Device: prs-500, Nokia N810, Irex dr1000s, Kindle3
|
Maybe this picture can help:
|
07-07-2010, 12:38 PM | #45 |
Wizard
Posts: 4,293
Karma: 529619
Join Date: May 2007
Device: iRex iLiad, DR800SG
|
I've never seen a Pixel Qi in person. However, I have seen lots of eInk, and I've never seen one with as poor of a contrast as the Kindle in that photo.
That's why it's hard to really tell anything from just pictures. I have no idea what the contrast levels really are, but I do know that Pixel Qi have said themselves that it's lower than eInk. Not sure why they would say that if it weren't true. I would assume they know more about their own screen than I do. |
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Pixel Qi 10" display will be sold as USB powered Secondary Display | Dulin's Books | News | 8 | 09-28-2010 06:15 PM |
Hardware Remplacer l'écran de son Netbook par un Pixel-Qi | DannyElfman | Forum Français | 8 | 07-01-2010 01:07 PM |
Engadget: Pixel Qi netbook display replacement kit finally on sale | Maggie Leung | General Discussions | 1 | 07-01-2010 10:34 AM |
Netbook News: CPT Transflective Display Comparable to Pixel Qi | kjk | News | 0 | 06-09-2010 11:56 AM |
Pixel Qi replacement display kits coming soon | Dulin's Books | News | 5 | 03-08-2010 06:05 PM |