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eBooks only came on as a mainstream thing with the Kindle in 2007. Pirated "same as the real thing" ebooks have been available since day one. Piracy hasn't shut the industry down nor kept Andy Weir from becoming a bestselling author (I chose him as his book was digital first and his career started after the rise of ebooks). Movie piracy is rampant. More so than books or music. I know people that pirate movies without being aware they're doing it due to things like Popcorn Time. Yet billion dollar blockbusters are a more and more common thing. Piracy will always exist. But I don't think there will be another Napster-like event. |
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Piracy? I believe that I had bought all of David Weber's Honor Harrington books, not all were hard backs. Now, the hardbacks have a cd-rom that had the books in various ebook formats. I did copy the epub books from the cd-rom onto my tablets. Is this "piracy" if I got rid of the printed books to save shelf space? The epub books included the paperback copies.
Then if someone did not buy all the printed books but just the last ones & transferred the epub books to their library, would they be considered pirates? |
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The files on this CD are not encrypted. Jim doesn't understand the logic of making his books hard for people to read. Neither do I, though we seem to be in the minority among publishers and authors. Read them. Copy them. Give them to your friends. Dive into them like a porpoise, throw them up in the air and let them fall down on your—no, that was something different. You're not supposed to sell the files. "Who'd be stupid enough to buy something they could have for free?" you may well ask yourself. If you do sell them, you are a Bad Person and may later exhibit signs of wanting to run for political office; but between you and me, I'm not going to come hunt you down. — David Drake And yes, I still have my copies of the all the CDs from my hardcovers. This includes the one from Cryoburn that Lois McMaster Bujold wanted removed because she did not understand that Baen was going to put a good chunk of her novels plus the Vorkosigan Companion on the CD. Always read the not so fine print... |
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What we don’t have is Napster for ebooks. A widely known, easy available source of pirated ebooks with easy software for locating and downloading the material. I know....there are sites...but they are constantly shifting, bing shut down, coming back up. Finding what you want is not Napster friendly.
Were such a site allowed to exist....ebook sales would crater. Book sales would crater. And authors can’t go on the road performing concerts to make money. You’ll notice that Gaimon hasn’t followed up and made all of his books available for free |
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At any rate, your argument seems to be drifting from 'piracy is a problem for books, or will become one when ebooks are the primary format' to 'piracy isn't a problem because it isn't as easy as Napster.' I don't think piracy simply free advertising. It isn't a good thing. It's just not the industry destroyer you think it is. Quote:
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When Napster came around, most teens saw it as an extension of that. Frankly, a Napster for ebooks has the same issue that 3rd party ebook stores have. Getting the books onto the reading devices. Side loading books is the exception rather than the rule. It may be common for people here, but most are use to buying a book and having it automagically show up on their reading device. That's why all the major ebook stores are associate with either physical devices (Kindle, Kobo, Nook) or have apps that run on a tablet (Apple, Amazon, Kobo and B&N). While there are likely thousands of people who use Calibre, or side load books, it's still a drop in the bucket compared to the over all ebook market. Of course, we talk of Napster, but Napster didn't really last long and didn't have nearly the impact on Music that you attribute to it. Napster was launched in June of 1999, was shut down in 2001 and went bankrupt in 2002. Piracy isn't what changed the Music industry. What changed the music industry was iTunes and the shift to digital music. People stopped buying albums and started buying songs. You didn't have to buy the album to get the one or two good songs any more. Books and Movies have a very different dynamic. Actually, if I were to point to a two major changes in the books industry, I would point to the demise of fiction magazines and the rise of audiobooks. The demise of fiction magazines (many of which still exists, but are a shadow of their former self) has come close to gutting the market for short stories. The rise of audiobooks has opened up a new revenue stream for authors and publishers. |
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There's scads of Kindle short story collections available. But it would help to have the clout of Amazon to ensure some level of quality. And they have the pockets to license famous names like Astounding or Weird Tales if they thought it was worth it. |
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I would tend to say that the rise of the mall bookstores increased the sales of books, which shifted authors focus from magazine sales to book sales. |
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Not to mention that there are vastly more people who consume music than there are people who read books. And there are still vastly more people reading paper books rather than ebooks, while the opposite is true in music industry (digital music vs CDs and other physical media). So I really doubt the book piracy has much influence on book industry in general, except perhaps for the indies who don't publish their books in paper at all.
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