05-14-2008, 05:10 PM | #31 | |
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I don't see that as a reason to distrust Adobe. Jason |
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05-14-2008, 05:13 PM | #32 |
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Ummmmmmmm.... I wanted to use Adobe Acrobat or Acrobat Reader to read PDF documents... Isn't that the primary function of Acrobat Reader?
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05-14-2008, 05:19 PM | #33 | |
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Did you try to turn reflow view on? That might help alot in this case. BOb |
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05-14-2008, 05:24 PM | #34 | |
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I'll confess I don't worry too much about DRM per se, as after all the outcry over Dmitry was such that the Library of Congress approved anti-circumvention exemptions to the Digital Millenium Copyright Act specifically for books. However there is still very much the possibility that Adobe DRM, an absolute market failure in the wake of Mobizon, can still be used to lock out players from educational markets. But of course you'd need the power of regulation to do that, something that can only be achieved by whispering campaigns and astrotrufing, and not, say, by having programmers do any actual programming. Not that Adobe doesn't love the little guy, but, of course, your own vice president is on record trashing the achievements of self-publishers. http://blogs.adobe.com/billmccoy/200...ublishing.html That Astroturfing might be a fear of mine, but then, a former IDPF head, now with Adobe, was just caught lying to a semi-influential mailing list about Amazon's Epub support (Mobizon supports OEBPS 2.0 as a conversion source, like everyone else, and in fact Mobi was the first major ebook software company to do so.): http://toc.oreilly.com/2008/04/keep-...play-nice.html Now, with your programmers so busy chatting up folks on blogs, there might be a few weaknesses in the software itself. But that's OK, as despite the fact that, you know, in the age of $5 1 GB SD cards, Adobe's software chokes on a couple hundred K of text, we're told that it's "best practices" to chop every book up (even classics like Moll Flanders or Tropic of Cancer that don't have chapter breaks): http://blogs.adobe.com/digitaleditio...igital_ed.html The above site is perhaps my favorite little bit of deception, as of course this failing of Adobe's makes all other means of creating .epub files (the DAISY Pipeline, Mischa's OEB2Epub, whatever Bookglutton's running) untrustworthy... but of course that's the fault of the user, not Adobe. I'd have more, but the O's might just mount a comeback. |
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05-14-2008, 05:28 PM | #35 |
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05-14-2008, 05:30 PM | #36 |
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I think most of us prefer to read in any other format than PDF. But unfortunately, in quite a lot of cases PDF is the only format that is available.
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05-14-2008, 05:41 PM | #37 | |
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http://www.foxitsoftware.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=15370 Which woud be great for the Jetbook since they use the FoxIt reader. They could update to this version it would add alot of value to that device. BOb EDIT: Actually found this in the FoxIt Mobile Reader PDF... About the Pro version. Not sure if this cost money or what. The reflow mode provides the best reading experience for Pocket PCs because text and images in PDF files can be easily reflowed to fit the screen size. It can make PDF documents easier to read on the small screen of a mobile device, without the need to scroll horizontally to read each line of text. http://www.foxitsoftware.com/solutio...leSolution.pdf Last edited by pilotbob; 05-14-2008 at 05:45 PM. |
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Actually, that's the challenge Peter Sorotokin should take up. To try and make PDF something other than people's last choice of format.
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05-14-2008, 05:48 PM | #39 | |
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5 inch lcd at $349.99 list compared to 5 inch eInk at less than $200? Nice to know they use FoxitPDF but I never saw your review listed to see if it was worth it. And, unless the Mentor turns into vaporware, I think I'll wait until they release the 5 inch Mentor and potentially save myself at least $150. |
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Nice, an Adobe developer intimately involved with ebooks shows up to discuss with us (what a great opportunity to hear from the "real" source!). Given Peter's post, blog, etc it is clear he is a key member of the DE team, all of which have obviously been working their arse off to bring us EPUB and reflowable PDF on the Sony reader, and content portability with DE -Today! Does anyone congratulate him for his recent achievement? Encourage ongoing support of open standards? Perhaps even, gasp! thank him? No, some wackjob chases him off while the rest of us sit here like we were at the Coliseum. I'm ashamed. We all have such an attitude of entitlement that it is sickening.
Peter, If you are still listening. Thank You! This is huge for publishers small and large. And huge for me since I love my Sony Reader. DE is not perfect, but I understand it is a 1.0 effort, and I can't wait to see 2.0. Huzzah! |
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text/ And he's at 15, 20k books sold by now. In four months. At a set-up cost of $0 (well, maybe he had to buy a Kindle). With no outside help; and apparently no editing. I'll wager his net against any O'Reilly "building .epub" manual you could name. Then there's the Real Soon Now: Quote:
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Gee, what do you think they're trying to do with .epub? But nonsavante, what's ludicrous about this whole spiel is that Adobe clearly does not own the standard. The de facto standard is mobipocket; and Adobe is in no position to be veering away from the guidelines or fudding the competition. Obviously this fact is recognized in other circles. I mean heck, Publisher's Weekly didn't even cover Digital Book 08, despite BEA not being for another week or two, but maybe the silent crowd is reflecting the fact that something about .epub smells not quite right. If I'm banned, have a day. |
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05-15-2008, 01:46 AM | #43 |
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nonsavante,
Thank you for your kind words. Perhaps, I did not express myself clearly: I am not going to continue that particular discussion, but it's not like I am leaving this forum: there is too much interesting things going on (and I am not offended if someone tells me that my software or my company or my company's file format suck). Peter |
05-15-2008, 01:49 AM | #44 |
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yes! we should be greatful for another player in the DRM market!
I barely had it installed, with no books in it at all, not even trying to buy a book with it, and already it starts bugging me that I should sign up to adobe-DRM, while trying to turn being able to read my own ebooks on multiple computers a great new feature. Huzzah, indeed! |
05-15-2008, 01:59 AM | #45 | |
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But I agree: for some books it's almost impossible to divide them into multiple flows. For example, open a book from Proust: you won't find a single page break and they're barely divided into 2 or 3 parts. |
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