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Old 02-09-2020, 04:08 AM   #1696
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Dank der großzügigen Unterstützung von Herrn Doitsu scheint es tatsächlich dazu zu kommen, ja.

Der Klaus ist ja mein Favorit aus der ganzen Mann-Sippe, kriminell unterschätzt und überignoriert. (Gutenberg-DE hat von Thomas und Heinrich schon fast alles fertig, obwohl es noch Jahre dauert, bis sie es freischalten dürfen, und von Klaus nicht eine Zeile auch nur in der Pipeline...)
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:28 AM   #1697
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Dank der großzügigen Unterstützung von Herrn Doitsu scheint es tatsächlich dazu zu kommen, ja

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Old 02-09-2020, 08:07 AM   #1698
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Es ist eine Freude. Die haben spitzenmäßige Scans bei der DNB, in hoher Auflösung. Habe den Vulkan schon OCRt, und das Ergebnis ist sehr sehr sauber.
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Old 02-22-2020, 11:46 AM   #1699
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kennt jemand diesen Übersetzer?
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Old 02-29-2020, 02:23 PM   #1700
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Frage an die Urheberrechtsexperten:

Die Münchner Stadtbibliothek hat dankenswerterweise jede Menge Scans von Manu- und Typoskripten Klaus Manns hochgeladen (wohl schon bevor die Werke gemeinfrei wurden.) Man kann die Scans als pdf herunterladen, sie haben aber alle folgende Copyrightwarnung:

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Die Digitalisate des Monacensia-Portals sind urheberrechtlich geschützt. Sie dürfen für wissenschaftliche und private Zwecke heruntergeladen und ausgedruckt werden. Vorhandene Herkunftsbezeichnungen dürfen dabei nicht entfernt werden. Eine kommerzielle oder institutionelle Nutzung oder Veröffentlichung dieser Inhalte ist ohne
vorheriges schriftliches Einverständnis der Monacensia und des Urheberrechtsnachfolgers Prof. Frido Mann nicht gestattet. Die Monacensia wird eine entsprechende Anfrage gerne weiterleiten. Für die Veröffentlichung der Digitalisate können gemäß der Gebührenordnung der Stadt München Entgelte erhoben werden. Zur Erteilung einer Veröffentlichungsgenehmigung wenden Sie sich bitte an den stellvertretenden Leiter der Monacensia: ...
Gilt davon irgendwas, wenn ich nicht die Scans, sondern epubs aus den OCRten Typoskripten uploaden wollte? (Keine dringliche Frage; ich habe noch genug mit ganz offiziell gedruckten Büchern zu tun. Aber da sind schon paar hübsche Sachen dabei...)
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Old 03-01-2020, 02:39 AM   #1701
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Ich würd’s ignorieren. Der Schutz durch das Urheberrecht ist eh entfallen und ich wüßte nicht, warum die Stadtbibliothek neue Rechte dadurch generieren können sollte, dass sie die Typoskripte durch den Kopierer gejagt hat.

Wenn ein Roman kurz vor Ablauf seiner Schutzfrist neu veröffentlicht wird, darf die Ausgabe nach dem Ablauf ja auch kopiert werden.
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Old 03-01-2020, 02:48 AM   #1702
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Danke.

So denke ich eigentlich auch, aber solche Warnungen verunsichern mich immer. Aber jetzt sind eh erst die Bücher dran, und dann schicke ich mal so ein Typoskript durch ABBYY und schau mir an, ob ich mir das überhaupt antun wollen würde...
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Old 03-01-2020, 03:53 AM   #1703
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Ich bin kein Urheberrechtsexperte, aber ich würde die Erklärung der Münchner Stadtbibliothek als falsche Schutzrechtsberühmung (Copyfraud) einstufen.

Vermutlich haben sie einfach die Erklärung noch nicht aktualisiert, denn das Urheberrecht an den eigentlichen Texten ist ja definitiv erloschen.

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Old 03-01-2020, 04:03 AM   #1704
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Die Erklärung werden sie bestimmt nicht ändern, die bildet die erste Seite jeder angebotenen pdf-Datei, d.h. sie müssten jede Datei edieren. Das kann ich mir nicht vorstellen.
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Old 03-05-2020, 05:15 AM   #1705
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Bin gerade beim letzten Durchschauen des Mephisto.

Würdet ihr hinter "Bösheit" ein [sic] setzen, oder die Leserschaft grübeln lassen, ob das ein OCR-Fehler ist?
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Würdet ihr hinter "Bösheit" ein [sic] setzen, oder die Leserschaft grübeln lassen, ob das ein OCR-Fehler ist?
Laut Google scheint "Bösheit" mitunter in Süddeutschland verwendet werden.
"Bösheit" könnte also theoretisch zum Idiolekt von Mann gehören, der in Süddeutschland aufgewachsen ist. Es könnte natürlich genauso gut auch ein Druckfehler sein.

Am besten wäre es, die Schreibweise mit der Schreibweise in einer modernen Ausgabe zu überprüfen. Wo genau kommt denn "Bösheit" vor?
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"Höfgen aber hat sich durchgesetzt und mittels seiner erstaunlichen Bösheit definitiv alle Herzen erobert."

Ich glaube, das ist durchaus Absicht; habe gerade nochmal etwas zurückgeschaut im Text. Die Bösheit bezieht sich auf eine Theaterrolle, mit der Höfgen erfolgreich ist, und in der er so beschrieben wird:

"Höfgen spielt dem wohlhabenden Publikum des Berliner Westens die äußerste Entartung vor, und er macht Sensation. Die Verworfenheit als Delikatesse für reiche Leute: damit schafft es Höfgen. Wie er es schafft! Sein zugleich müdes und gespanntes Mienenspiel wird bewundert, sehr bewundert werden seine nachlässig weichen, anmutig tückischen Gebärden – „er bewegt sich wie eine Katze!” schwärmt Fräulein Bernhard, die sich von ihm „Rose” nennen läßt. „Eine böse Katze! oh, wie himmlisch böse er ist!”"

Danke fürs Googeln. Mein Duden Universalwörterbuch hat die Variante nicht...

Aber die werte Leserschaft muss wohl ohne ein [sic] auskommen.
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Ich glaube, das ist durchaus Absicht; habe gerade nochmal etwas zurückgeschaut im Text. Die Bösheit bezieht sich auf eine Theaterrolle, mit der Höfgen erfolgreich ist, und in der er so beschrieben wird:
Im Ebook-Ausgabe von Rowohlt heißt es auch "Bösheit".
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Der Schutz durch das Urheberrecht ist eh entfallen und ich wüßte nicht, warum die Stadtbibliothek neue Rechte dadurch generieren können sollte, dass sie die Typoskripte durch den Kopierer gejagt hat.
Da gibt's den Bereich der „Reproduktionsfotografie“, käme also vielleicht auch auf die Art der Fotos/Scans an, oder außerhalb des Urheberrechts das Leistungsschutzrecht möglicherweise für die reine Arbeit bei der Herstellung der Digitalisate. Aber gut, dies ist keine Rechtsberatung :-)
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