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It should have been pretty obvious that I was talking about hightailing it out of the new headquarters agreement and not hightailing it out of every job in the state. Don't you agree? |
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02-16-2019, 04:07 PM | #108 |
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Amazon would have been a financial boon to NYC according to all the analysis I've seen but it also would have increased living costs the way big tech companies do in other towns, including Seattle, so that a lot of people now living in NYC would no longer be able to afford to live there. Companies like this also increase homeless rates.
So it's all true. Amazon would have been a good thing for NYC and a bad thing for NYC. A number of articles I've read point out that what Amazon has done was pretty much the same thing Google and other tech companies do when they open other offices. The difference was that Amazon did it very publicly and got themselves a lot of attention while the others do it more quietly. I don't personally care if Amazon goes to New York. I wish the city well but they're pretty far down on the list of things I care about. I just hope they don't come here to Sheridan, Arkansas. It's a nice quiet little town and I like it that way. Barry |
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Basically the same. It was 90% tax abatement on property taxes for ten years. Meanwhile the property owners in this town had to pay for the improvements necessary to support Farmer Brothers' headquarters. And the workers (since this town is right next to major cities) probably won't even be coming from that small town. It's corporate welfare. If I started a business there I would have to pay full property taxes and not expect the citizens of the town to foot the bill for ten years. After ten years, I can just about guarantee that Farmer Brothers will either renegotiate for another abatement, or move on somewhere else. This is the way it's done now. There won't be any loyalty for the town bending over backwards for them.
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But as for hollowing out: Detroit has been hollowing out. Philadelphia, alas, has been hollowing out. New York City population is at a record high. New York Public Library Overdrive - 148,258 eBooks (43,123 per million residents) Brooklyn Overdrive - 128,945 eBooks (48,677 per million residents) Philadelphia Overdrive - 29,264 (18,510 per million residents) And, just sayin': Houston Overdrive - 42,035 (18,173 per million residents) This isn't the only metric to tell if a city is prosperous, but it's a good one one I like |
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Most every large city offers tax advantages to large corporations considering relocating there. It's quite standard. That doesn't mean you have to like it, but it's what's happening these days. If a city wants a large business to consider them as a location, they're just going to have to offer tax incentives in most every case. Like it or not.
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Lots of things that used to be standard are not done anymore.
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Not only do I NOT have to like it, I can also oppose it (to the best of my ability anyhow). About 25 years ago they tried this same thing with Micron Technology in Twin Falls, Idaho. Tax incentives. "Look at the benefits," they (mostly the Chamber of Commerce and Realtors) said. "Look at the cost," we said. "What happens if something this huge ups and leaves?" Besides, housing was already tight. Finally the local opposition caused Micron to move elsewhere, to Utah, where the factory was shuttered before it was ever opened. I think ten years later, Intel and Micron went together and finally opened it. Meanwhile a lot of people in a small community got hurt. |
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A bit off topic, we're on page 8 after all, this video examines just how far off the tracks corporate subsidies can go.
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And I thought Texas was bad.
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So, if NY would just increase corporate handouts enough, it could be just like Louisiana.
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