Editor update 1.42

Nebucad · 06-27-2014, 04:16 AM

I updated Calibre and i noticed the improvment.

It seemd for me everything runs smoother and quicker - I love it.
I guess you made the right improvements.

Thank you Kovid Goyal

kovidgoyal · 06-27-2014, 04:26 AM

You're welcome

Leonatus · 06-27-2014, 09:44 AM

Thank you Kovid, for adding the add cover feature! Great!

roger64 · 06-28-2014, 11:58 AM

Hi

Inserting a cover

Thank you for adding this very handy tool. I'd like to suggest a small improvement. This is something I am already doing using your Editor.

When I open a book, I like to begin first with the cover. However some ebook renderers drop you directly to the first text chapter and I have to go backwards some pages if I wish to see the cover...

That's why, on my ebooks, using your editor, I usually add an entry (named... "cover") to the toc.ncx, so as to force the opening of the book on the cover.

For this reason, I think it could make some sense to add a tick option "Display cover first" (or something like that) close to the existing (and very useful) one "Preserve aspect ratio" .

I hope I've been clear...

kovidgoyal · 06-28-2014, 11:02 PM

@roger64: What you are looking for is possible through the Set Semantics tool. Simply change the semanitcs named "Text (First real page of content)" to point to the cover file.

davidfor · 06-29-2014, 01:04 AM

Kovid: Unfortunately, the Kobo ereaders don't respect that setting. They open epubs to the first entry in the TOC. That is assuming roger64 is talking about reading it on the device he has listed.

What I have been doing for this situation is to add a heading to the page with a class that has "display: none;". That was very useful with Sigil as it was picked up by the ToC generation. It isn't as necessary for the calibre editor as it is much easier to add an entry pointing to other places.

kovidgoyal · 06-29-2014, 01:18 AM

Ah, well in that case I am not going to add a device specific hack into the UI of the editor. You can always add the ToC entry manually.

Terisa de morgan · 06-29-2014, 01:36 AM

If you mark the html file where you have the cover as the cover file, the editor puts itin the first place and the cover appears when you open the book in the kobo.

eschwartz · 06-29-2014, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Ah, well in that case I am not going to add a device specific hack into the UI of the editor. You can always add the ToC entry manually.

Doesn't work on the Kindle either. The cover cannot be linked to at all.

roger64 · 06-29-2014, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

If you mark the html file where you have the cover as the cover file, the editor puts itin the first place and the cover appears when you open the book in the kobo.

Exactly. That's what I do. I have a Kobo Glo.

This way, the first time it opens a book, it's with the cover. I suggested this because many users don't know how to do it and just grumble about opening a book on the first chapter... An option does no harm.

For the Kindle, things may be different though - like everything else...

kovidgoyal · 06-29-2014, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Doesn't work on the Kindle either. The cover cannot be linked to at all.

There is no way to open the book to the cover on a Kindle. The only solution is to insert a duplicate cover as a normal image at the start of the book and set the semantics to point to it as the start of text.

eschwartz · 06-29-2014, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

There is no way to open the book to the cover on a Kindle. The only solution is to insert a duplicate cover as a normal image at the start of the book and set the semantics to point to it as the start of text.

Precisely.

davidfor · 06-29-2014, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

If you mark the html file where you have the cover as the cover file, the editor puts itin the first place and the cover appears when you open the book in the kobo.

That's not what I see. If I mark the file as the cover, it is moved the the first file and is used by the Kobo device as the cover. But, the epub is opened to the first entry in the ToC.

If you are sideloading as a kepub, I think that works differently. They might always open to the first page of the book.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger64

Exactly. That's what I do. I have a Kobo Glo.

This way, the first time it opens a book, it's with the cover. I suggested this because many users don't know how to do it and just grumble about opening a book on the first chapter...

The reason I have done the experiments in the past to find how the Kobos opened an epub was because of a discussion on why some opened on the cover and others elsewhere. I'd say it was about even as to whether people wanted it opening on the cover, or skipping the front matter and opening on the first actual text page.

Kovid: Is there are reason why the calibre viewer doesn't use the text semantic? It seems to always open to the front of the epub rather than this.

kovidgoyal · 06-29-2014, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidfor

Kovid: Is there are reason why the calibre viewer doesn't use the text semantic? It seems to always open to the front of the epub rather than this.

Because I find the idea of a start position different from the cover silly. If there is content you dont want your users to see at the start of the book, put it at the end.

And if the viewer opens somewhere inside the book, people will not see the cover and I will get bug reports about how the viewer is not showing the cover.

eschwartz · 06-29-2014, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

And if the viewer opens somewhere inside the book, people will not see the cover and I will get bug reports about how the viewer is not showing the cover.

An excellent reason!

06-27-2014, 04:16 AM	#1
Nebucad Member Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Nürnberg - Germany Device: Kindle 4 - Gen. 5	Editor update 1.42 I updated Calibre and i noticed the improvment. It seemd for me everything runs smoother and quicker - I love it. I guess you made the right improvements. Thank you Kovid Goyal

06-28-2014, 11:58 AM	#4
roger64 Wizard Posts: 2,608 Karma: 3000161 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle PW3 (wifi)	Hi Inserting a cover Thank you for adding this very handy tool. I'd like to suggest a small improvement. This is something I am already doing using your Editor. When I open a book, I like to begin first with the cover. However some ebook renderers drop you directly to the first text chapter and I have to go backwards some pages if I wish to see the cover... That's why, on my ebooks, using your editor, I usually add an entry (named... "cover") to the toc.ncx, so as to force the opening of the book on the cover. For this reason, I think it could make some sense to add a tick option "Display cover first" (or something like that) close to the existing (and very useful) one "Preserve aspect ratio" . I hope I've been clear... Last edited by roger64; 06-28-2014 at 12:02 PM.

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06-27-2014, 04:26 AM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,850 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	You're welcome

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06-28-2014, 11:02 PM	#5
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,850 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	@roger64: What you are looking for is possible through the Set Semantics tool. Simply change the semanitcs named "Text (First real page of content)" to point to the cover file.

06-29-2014, 01:04 AM	#6
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,907 Karma: 47303748 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	Kovid: Unfortunately, the Kobo ereaders don't respect that setting. They open epubs to the first entry in the TOC. That is assuming roger64 is talking about reading it on the device he has listed. What I have been doing for this situation is to add a heading to the page with a class that has "display: none;". That was very useful with Sigil as it was picked up by the ToC generation. It isn't as necessary for the calibre editor as it is much easier to add an entry pointing to other places.

06-29-2014, 01:18 AM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,850 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Ah, well in that case I am not going to add a device specific hack into the UI of the editor. You can always add the ToC entry manually.

06-29-2014, 01:36 AM	#8
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,233 Karma: 11768331 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	If you mark the html file where you have the cover as the cover file, the editor puts itin the first place and the cover appears when you open the book in the kobo.