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Old 11-11-2019, 09:30 AM   #106
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Agreed, Amazon decides, based on what you upload. Thus the publisher doesn't directly decide and the process is opaque and could change.

Series listings are strange too. It seems you have to contact Amazon, the KDP meta info isn't enough.

Their help texts are one thing and what they do is another.
I can tell you that the metadata PLUS the series title, is enough, but you have to be devout about it. You have to be very careful to ensure that you type those elements the same, and then it works. (And, of course, you can contact them or Author Central and get it done, too, yes, AFTER you change the meta to match what they want.)

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Old 11-11-2019, 11:52 AM   #107
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I was careful, but the series didn't show up on book page. CS made it work and without being asked also created a "boxed set". Since then books added to several series, carefully and the series doesn't appear, nor are they added to the other pages.
I need to talk to CS again.
I didn't have to edit anything. It was all perfectly entered.
Maybe US is different to people with a UK "home" marketplace, though we are not in UK.

I don't want to post the examples as that would give away which indie publisher I do work for.
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Old 11-11-2019, 01:08 PM   #108
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I was careful, but the series didn't show up on book page. CS made it work and without being asked also created a "boxed set". Since then books added to several series, carefully and the series doesn't appear, nor are they added to the other pages.
I need to talk to CS again.
I didn't have to edit anything. It was all perfectly entered.
Maybe US is different to people with a UK "home" marketplace, though we are not in UK.

I don't want to post the examples as that would give away which indie publisher I do work for.
I recently walked through this with one of our publishers. He emailed Customer Service and they sent him a list of requirements, which off the top of my head, I can't recall, but I can ask him to re-send it to me, if you wish. There were 3 requirements for making books show up together as a series.

I've never seen KDP "create" a boxed set. I mean, they'll show the books in a series as being purchasable together, but unlike a boxed set, they're not physically joined and far more importantly to the buyer, there isn't a penny in savings over buying them individually. I mean...who would buy them that way? I'd rather wait and see if any of them go on sale. I find that approach, with ZERO savings for a "set" kind of insulting, myself, as a reader and buyer.

FWIW. I almost bought a set like that, once, until I realized that there weren't ANY savings and I've paid attention ever since. Really, you'd think that Amazon would either not insult us by proferring them like that, or allow indy publishers to at least put in a teeny bit of savings. SOMETHING that would make it worthwhile!

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Old 11-11-2019, 03:02 PM   #109
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I recently walked through this with one of our publishers. He emailed Customer Service and they sent him a list of requirements, which off the top of my head, I can't recall, but I can ask him to re-send it to me, if you wish. There were 3 requirements for making books show up together as a series.
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I've never seen KDP "create" a boxed set. I mean, they'll show the books in a series as being purchasable together
They must be delivered as separate books? But a single purchase click:
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Buy all 5 books for £14.39 (includes VAT)
Sold by: Amazon Media EU S.à r.l.
Yes, no saving, increase or joining(I hope). It's just to save clicks. So I suppose I can't complain? Really a boxed set of ebooks is meaningless?

Though Smashwords uses the term and they only sell ebooks, though now partner on Audiobooks. An ebook can have a link to store selling the paper version.


Except the sixth hasn't been added.
We are in the middle of repricing Sterling. Hard to decide if to price at a psychological point or let Amazon convert from US$ or convert from Euro. We use Euro. Customers in Ireland, which uses Euro, have difficulty NOT using amazon.co.uk and we see German sales, Canadian etc, but not Irish sales because that is obnoxiously part of UK marketplace. We are in Ireland.

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I recently walked through this with one of our publishers. He emailed Customer Service and they sent him a list of requirements, which off the top of my head, I can't recall, but I can ask him to re-send it to me, if you wish. There were 3 requirements for making books show up together as a series.

I've never seen KDP "create" a boxed set. I mean, they'll show the books in a series as being purchasable together, but unlike a boxed set, they're not physically joined and far more importantly to the buyer, there isn't a penny in savings over buying them individually. I mean...who would buy them that way? I'd rather wait and see if any of them go on sale. I find that approach, with ZERO savings for a "set" kind of insulting, myself, as a reader and buyer.

FWIW. I almost bought a set like that, once, until I realized that there weren't ANY savings and I've paid attention ever since. Really, you'd think that Amazon would either not insult us by proferring them like that, or allow indy publishers to at least put in a teeny bit of savings. SOMETHING that would make it worthwhile!

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I've noticed that on Amazon that sometimes there are box sets, the books are not available individually and the only single books are those that come after the box set in the series.
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I've noticed that on Amazon that sometimes there are box sets, the books are not available individually and the only single books are those that come after the box set in the series.
Wolfie,

If you mean bonafide real boxed sets, those are from trade publishers.

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