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Old 06-22-2021, 02:34 PM   #1
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Google service changes

For those of you who feel that you have a good grasp on Google's services such as Gmail:

50 illuminating questions about Google's latest messaging service shakeup

If this doesn't confuse you, you can then check into Google's own announcements. At this point, I would say that not only does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing, neither of them know what they are doing.
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That article seems much more confusing to me than what's actually happening.
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Old 06-22-2021, 03:27 PM   #3
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I'm naturally confused, I don't need to read any articles that increase it.

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That article seems much more confusing to me than what's actually happening.
That was my impression too, the TL;DR seems strsightforward to me: "Google's merging its collaborative tools and giving all account holders a taster for free, hoping to upsell them"
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For me, much of the confusion is just which of Google's tools that do very similar jobs, for example, what chat module am I supposed to use. Not to mention confusing the difference between Google's paid and free services which now seems to be non-existent so what are we paying for?

At this point, there appears to be a very good chance that we are going to move from using Microsoft and Google to using Microsoft only due to the lack of clarity supplied by Google.
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For me, much of the confusion is just which of Google's tools that do very similar jobs, for example, what chat module am I supposed to use. Not to mention confusing the difference between Google's paid and free services which now seems to be non-existent so what are we paying for?

At this point, there appears to be a very good chance that we are going to move from using Microsoft and Google to using Microsoft only due to the lack of clarity supplied by Google.
I found this article in The Register last week to be much more informative about the changes, not focused on amping up the "gee this confusing" vibe. It also explains clearly some of the known differences between free and paid.
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I found this article in The Register last week to be much more informative about the changes, not focused on amping up the "gee this confusing" vibe. It also explains clearly some of the known differences between free and paid.
The Register article does little to point out the numerous overlaps which is where the confusion starts. Why do we have a medley of Google Chat, Google Hangouts, Google Messages, Google Rooms soon to be Google Spaces, Google Meet, Google Duo, etc.? Compared to this, Microsoft Teams seems downright straightforward.

Though I am glad that you find:

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Google has introduced a new subscription called Workspace Individual, which adds "premium capabilities." The exact list of what these capabilities are is to follow, but we can expect them to include custom domains, additional security features, increased limits for Meet videoconferencing, live streaming, and premium support.
where the italicized portion is editorializing from Tim Andersen, to be a clear explanation of what is included in the paid individual plan. I personally would key off the "exact list of what these capabilities are is to follow" as meaning that Google hasn't bothered to make that list public, assuming Google has generated such a list at this point in time.

Since I am more concerned about the corporate environment, where the poor slobs in IT who are going to have to explain this to their co-workers are still waiting for information on what effect these changes/rebranding will have on our corporate Google environment. The information will be ready Real Soon Now.

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The Register article does little to point out the numerous overlaps which is where the confusion starts. Why do we have a medley of Google Chat, Google Hangouts, Google Messages, Google Rooms soon to be Google Spaces, Google Meet, Google Duo, etc.? Compared to this, Microsoft Teams seems downright straightforward.

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where the italicized portion is editorializing from Tim Andersen, to be a clear explanation of what is included in the paid individual plan. I personally would key off the "exact list of what these capabilities are is to follow" as meaning that Google hasn't bothered to make that list public, assuming Google has generated such a list at this point in time.

Since I am more concerned about the corporate environment, where the poor slobs in IT who are going to have to explain this to their co-workers are still waiting for information on what effect these changes/rebranding will have on our corporate Google environment. The information will be ready Real Soon Now.

You did a sterling job of ignoring the qualifiers I included in my post, bravo! I specifically said it was "more informative" and explains clearly "some of the known changes". I made it clear that I was comparing the Register article favorably with the link originally posted, nothing more.
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Since I am more concerned about the corporate environment, where the poor slobs in IT who are going to have to explain this to their co-workers are still waiting for information on what effect these changes/rebranding will have on our corporate Google environment. The information will be ready Real Soon Now.
IT will spin up NextCloud, LibreOffice, and Jitsi on AWS, and tell prior vendors that their offering were too confusing to the C-Levels, and tell the C-Levels that the former setup has been discontinued.
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For me, much of the confusion is just which of Google's tools that do very similar jobs, for example, what chat module am I supposed to use. Not to mention confusing the difference between Google's paid and free services which now seems to be non-existent so what are we paying for?

At this point, there appears to be a very good chance that we are going to move from using Microsoft and Google to using Microsoft only due to the lack of clarity supplied by Google.
I moved all my google stocks in microsoft cause microsoft is the new google, google the old microsoft
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