06-02-2021, 11:07 PM | #1 | ||
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Amazon Sidewalk to go Live on 08 Jun
What is Amazon Sidewalk, and how to opt out
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06-02-2021, 11:14 PM | #2 | ||
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Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Internet with neighbors
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06-03-2021, 05:29 AM | #3 |
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I don't have a ring door bell or amazon echo device, thank goodness.
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06-03-2021, 06:32 AM | #4 |
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Comcast/Xfinity do the same thing for their WiFi hotspots. I had this turned off for myself and my parents.
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06-03-2021, 07:11 AM | #5 | |
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06-03-2021, 07:40 AM | #6 |
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In many countries this would be illegal unless you had to opt in. Virgin Media (Liberty Global and really UPC, they rent the name from Branson) was prosecuted for sharing users WiFi to other Virgin customers in Ireland. Eircom was doing it with their routers and the setting was only on Eircom's website, not the Router/Modem.
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06-03-2021, 07:41 AM | #7 |
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You are actually best to avoid Amazon Ring and Google Nest entirely.
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06-03-2021, 08:08 AM | #8 |
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Mole hill, meet Mountain.
I suppose I might need to worry about hordes of evil-doers armed with battery-powered Echos driving up and down my street wardriving me so they can turn their lights off back home, though. My only possible beef would be bandwidth. But at approximately 80Kbps (and a monthly cap of 500Mb), I have no concerns there. If it helps someone find their tile enabled keys or pets quicker, I'll play. Last edited by DiapDealer; 06-03-2021 at 08:24 AM. |
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No, it can be used to profile you for stalking or burglary. This isn't an opinion. Security experts recommend avoiding Nest or Ring.
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06-03-2021, 08:29 AM | #10 | |
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I'm fine with people not wanting to share any of their internet bandwidth with every Tom, Dick and Harriet. But there's no reason to invent dangers that don't exist. Even in a remote wilderness with one house in the middle of 100 empty square miles, the only thing someone could discover about the homeowner through Sidewalk is that the home has an internet connection (when their device suddenly finds an internet connection in the wilderness). Something they could have easily discovered without Sidewalk. Last edited by DiapDealer; 06-03-2021 at 08:43 AM. |
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It sounds similar to Apple’s Find My Network:
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06-03-2021, 09:29 AM | #12 |
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Not always true. A couple of months ago, more than 3000 addresses in my city lost internet, mine included. The apartment on the other side of my bedroom wall did not (same fiber, different isp), so I could have used their wifi in this scenario
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06-03-2021, 09:47 AM | #13 |
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Sure. But you wouldn't know whose wifi you were using. Nor would you know anything about their network, nor be able to glean any of their personal information from the Sidewalk Bridge. And even then, "Using their WiFi" is a bit misleading. It's not as if you'd be able to fire up a movie on Neflix with your phone or download porn on their dime. All you'd be able to do is turn your smart devices on and off and potentially track your tile-enabled devices.
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