01-05-2017, 11:46 AM | #61 | |
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Your field of expertise goes belly up, you look for another line of work to feed your family. Yes it is probably lower pay but you make do and adjust. You may lose everything and have to start all over but it has been done many times. I know way too many people that happened to. And it can take 2 decades to get back to where you were. |
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01-05-2017, 12:40 PM | #63 | |
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01-05-2017, 01:17 PM | #64 | |
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01-05-2017, 04:01 PM | #65 | ||
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Switching to a field outside of your expertise is slowly becoming impossible, at least in the Netherlands. I've got more than a decade of software engineering experience, and I've programmed in everything from assembler to C, C++, C#, Javascript, PHP4 through 7, and several PLC-related languages. I've been doing PHP7 and PLC's for the last couple of years, but when trying to switch to a job requiring C or Python or whatever, I'm treated as some sort of just-out-of-school kid and get told that I don't have enough experience 'with the required tools'. Try to convince a recruiter that learning a new programming language takes like... well... half a day or so. And a few weeks to get up to speed with the default libraries and frameworks. That's the entire problem: you don't have, or get those few weeks. If it's hard to switch *within* your own expertise (different versions), then try switching *out* of it. For example, me trying to get a job as a lawyer... or mechanical enineer. Not gonna happen. Last edited by Katsunami; 01-05-2017 at 04:08 PM. |
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No, you could not go into a field that required a totally different education, but I am assuming you could work retail or some other non-technical field. Let me tell something young man. My husband worked in the oilfield until the bottom fell out. He didn't have a degree of any kind. He lost everything, cars, house etc. His taxes show that one year he made X. The following year he made 10% of that. Barely enough to eat. He finally found a job running a crappy motel for a place to live. Luckily the owner of the motel hired him to do construction on another business. He wound up working the in the new business. The company he wound up working for has been through 3 buyouts and at least 4 different operating systems. He has been doing this job for the past 28 years. It literally took him 20 years to get back to even close to where he was when he lost everything. It pays way less than the previous field too. Oh and he lost his first wife too. Apparently, she couldn't handle the stress of life anymore. He lost her roughly 4 months before we met. |
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01-05-2017, 05:34 PM | #70 | |
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And I still have a few decades to go (and then some) if it DOESN'T rise. That's going to be fun. Last edited by Katsunami; 01-05-2017 at 05:40 PM. |
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01-05-2017, 06:18 PM | #71 | |
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As far as I could tell, he was saying being a mailman in the Netherlands doesn't have the same level of pay/benefits that being a mailman in the U.S. has. *EDIT: Should have refreshed before posting |
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01-05-2017, 06:26 PM | #72 |
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01-05-2017, 07:44 PM | #73 | |
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Especially where it relates to US farming which is a very different business than European farming. As the article I linked to makes clear, US style precision farming is about increasing (near-zero) profit margins and the automated gear isn't displacing the operators but rather ensuring higher precision for lower waste, less environmental impact, and a better product out the door. The Guardian piece is dealing in projections and hypotheticals. To date, US precision farming is all about achieving greater yields and better quality, not labor reduction. |
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01-08-2017, 07:49 PM | #74 | |
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Blame Displacement of Jobs on Automation, Not Offshoring and Immigration
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01-08-2017, 08:39 PM | #75 |
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I rest my case. If Stephen Hawking says it, I won't even ask for proof.
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