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Old 08-11-2017, 09:53 AM   #46
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The premise that the Oasis is being pulled from stores was discredited almost immediately. I'm surprised that this thread persists.

I find it unlikely that the Oasis will be refreshed this year because

1. It is the newest premium kindle
2. It is lowest rated premium kindle (4 stars vs 4.5 stars for the others)
3. It makes up the lowest revenue stream with anemic sales
Must ask how do you know #3? I didn't think Amazon published their sales figures.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:11 AM   #47
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Yes, it's only sold in Japan. And it's only 2000 yen(~$20) more than the 4GB version. And no I don't think it'd cost $180 to ship it and pay taxes. A quick look on eBay shows them for $170 with free shipping to the U.S brand new. I'm guessing that's one with ads based on the price. I don't even think I'd pay $180 to pay a reshipper service to buy one for me straight from Amazon Japan with taxes and everything.

Anyways my point was that storage is cheap, so why didn't they put more on the Oasis.
WOW! I'm having a hard time just wrapping my brain around a 32 GB on device storage! It might be useful for people doing academic or technical research, I guess, but for recreational reading, I'm not even close to filling up my 4GB Paperwhite!
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:13 AM   #48
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WOW! I'm having a hard time just wrapping my brain around a 32 GB on device storage! It might be useful for people doing academic or technical research, I guess, but for recreational reading, I'm not even close to filling up my 4GB Paperwhite!
It is my understanding that they read Manga over there and those files are bigger than a standard ebook.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:26 AM   #49
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It is my understanding that they read Manga over there and those files are bigger than a standard ebook.
People read manga over here too. And they even sell it on Amazon.com for Kindles. Western comics are also sold for Kindles too.

They generally range from 20-100MB a typical manga volume depending on image quality.

What I find even more baffling is that the U.S manga publishers generally give higher res images and thus larger file sizes than the Japanese version but we don't get the 32GB version.

Plus if a even if a short book has 20-30 high res images the file size can easily bloat to 8MB or more.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:53 AM   #50
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WOW! I'm having a hard time just wrapping my brain around a 32 GB on device storage!
I guess you'd really freak out over my iPad with its 512GB, then .
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:57 AM   #51
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The Kindle Oasis may be one of the most innovative and effective design evolution made for an e-reader to date.
Agree very much. On a device where the display can rotate so easily without harming other functions, it's a good idea to trim away the unnecessary bezel space and move the weight closer to the hand. And page buttons right under the thumb. Simple, brilliant design.

And I wonder if LCD tablets couldn't learn a similar trick. In fact, with an LCD, you could almost have a sort of "virtual bezel" that scoots over a bit when it detects a hand using the space. Use the non-covered parts of that vbezel to have home buttons, volume controls, etc.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:19 PM   #52
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I guess you'd really freak out over my iPad with its 512GB, then .
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:20 PM   #53
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I find it unlikely that the Oasis will be refreshed this year because
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3. It makes up the lowest revenue stream with anemic sales
Right!
As the VP of marketing at my last firm used to say:
So what if we lose a little bit of money on each sale, we can make it up on volume.

Jeff Bezos is the Richest or the Next-to-Richest man in the world (depending on the changes in Microsoft and Amazon stock prices - he and Bill keep swapping their postilions).
You think he got that way by following the little adage I quoted above?

I will stick with my opinion above -
The Amazon Kindle Oasis is another Amazon Fire Cellphone.
With the same product future the AFC had.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:24 PM   #54
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3. It makes up the lowest revenue stream with anemic sales
Can you provide some data to support this?

We know (because Mr Bezos has publicly said so) that Amazon make no profit from the PW - it's sold at cost. If, as seems extremely likely, the Oasis is sold at a profit, it's still a revenue stream for Amazon, which the PW is not.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:28 PM   #55
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So in the scrolling banner on Amazon.com that advertises the various Kindle models, why is the Oasis not shown if it's still a currently viable product? To me that would say that the Oasis is dead.
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So in the scrolling banner on Amazon.com that advertises the various Kindle models, why is the Oasis not shown if it's still a currently viable product? To me that would say that the Oasis is dead.
It's not a "scrolling banner"; it's a fixed-width banner with room for four products. Presumably Amazon decided to use the space to advertise their four top-selling Kindle products.
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It's not a "scrolling banner"; it's a fixed-width banner with room for four products. Presumably Amazon decided to use the space to advertise their four top-selling Kindle products.
Regardless of what the banner is called, there is room to have the Oasis shown.
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Regardless of what the banner is called, there is room to have the Oasis shown.
You know exactly what I mean, Jon. Stop being irritating.
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You know exactly what I mean, Jon. Stop being irritating.
It is a scrolling banner and there is room for the Oasis and the Oasis is not there. That has to say something about the Oasis which is not good.
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It is a scrolling banner and there is room for the Oasis and the Oasis is not there. That has to say something about the Oasis which is not good.
Could it be that Amazon knows there isn't a snowballs chance in Phoenix in the summer that you would ever buy an Oasis so it doesn't show on your feed.

Off to look at Kindles now.
Ok looked at the scrolling banner.
Amazon thinks I need 2 Echos, an accent table, prime, unlimited music and $35 off a new kindle.

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