09-17-2012, 09:51 PM | #106 |
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If China is the "last great colonial power" what about all of the eastern and southern provinces of Russia that were once independent countries?
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Here are some more facts about foxconn... About 1% of the cost of your iPhone, iPad or other advanced electronic device goes to pay the wages of the Chinese workers who assemble them, while another 1% goes to Foxconn executives and shareholders. 1.2 million young Chinese workers assemble over 50% of all the electronics products consumed over the globe. Armies of young men and women perform monotonous repetitive assembly work under quasi-military discipline for at least 60 hours a week for minimal pay and virtually no social benefits. In 2010 and 2011 nearly 100,000 “student interns” between 16 and 18 years old supplied to Foxconn by vocational schools were required to work for Foxconn regardless of their major field of study. They were assigned to work at various mind-numbing repetitive tasks by computer (to break up groups of schoolmates). Although they receive a minimum wage (and no benefits at all since they are not covered by labor law), the student interns actually paid for the privilege of being exploited by paying school tuition and exorbitant placement fees. Worker resistance at Foxconn is sporadic and usually individual. Many workers quit in the middle of the month (and hence receive no pay at all for hours worked). Occasionally a spontaneously organized slowdown may cause the removal of a particularly abusive line supervisor. At the beginning of 2012, in a grisly echo of the tragic suicides of 2010, one group of 200 Foxconn workers gathered on a roof in Wuhan to threaten mass suicide. They won a few concessions, but 45 of them were fired as a consequence. The audit confirms SACOM’s reports that workers work at least 60 hours a week, more at peak periods, and often do not receive even one day off a week. Time spent at work meetings or being lectured while standing at the work station is not compensated. Overtime is compensated only in 30 minute increments – hence a worker who works 29 minutes overtime is not compensated at all, and one who works 59 minutes is paid only for thirty. This info is from Unions.org Well it sounds pretty terrible Hans... I think you're on the wrong side here buddy. |
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Firstly, it would be nice if you actually responded to what I'm saying rather than a few bits that fit the agenda you're working to... Secondly, you've moved a lot of this discussion away from the title subject and would be far better preaching in the political thread... Thirdly, who claimed that any system was "the most ideal above all others" in the thread... and who the hell was talking victorious especially in the current economic climate... Your overall reactions and tone actually remind me of the tone of the armies of paid pro-Chinese bloggers who are instructed to attack any dissent... it doesn't work so well on a lightly moderated free site... Edit: Responding to another of your posts whilst I was writing mine: Union.org??? A neutral and unbiased source??? Last edited by elcreative; 09-17-2012 at 10:04 PM. |
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Ah yes the UN 'gave' them to Japan.... |
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The thing I'm interested in on this thread is the costs of an iPhone. |
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And you still ignore the rest of a post because "it isn't worth responding to," yet another typical obfuscation technique designed to promote your personal agandas at the expense of the discussion...
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Tibet is certainly not a colony of China, its part of China. China has no colonies. And I'm not a defender of China, its just the level of misinformation about this country is staggeringly high. Anyway lets get back to iPhones! |
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How bizarre... I a devout christian, actually find myself backed into a corner and having to stick up for China of all places, from a pack of Apple smurfbots!
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trying to get another thread closed
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Now we've really got somewhere. And we're getting to the heart of what the costs are. You know mods close down threads all too easily these days without remembering what a thread is supposed to be. Its like a chain of thought. Thought evolve and change, and thats whats really interesting, not exact agreements between everyone. So let the thread twist and turn and dance where it will.... |
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