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I think Engadget's review said it was Samsung.
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It is most closely tied to the type/design of the backlighting. It is doubtful that a software update can anything to increase the output of the backlight or the amount of bleed in black areas. The quoted numbers don't seem to be outrageously inferior to the competition or anything like that but the golden eyeballs crowd would likely beg to differ. |
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Entire (set calibration) businesses are built off those variances. And that is when the manufacturer only uses one source of panels so the variances are solely due to batch tolerance variation and not from mixing panels from different factories or manufacturers. |
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People are having a hard time saying anything unequivocally good about this thing.
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And is battery life really poor? Worse than an iPad certainly, but the low Engadget score seems at odds with the experience quoted in the Verge review, which lists it as 'great battery life' in their round up as one of the good features, along with the 'fantastic display, fast, smooth performance, and good speakers'. Graham |
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That one is getting torpedoed right now by the good-to-great sales (depending on your perceptions) of the Microsoft Surface RT which "only" has 150K apps available and is selling out in some venues, drawing respectable lines at B&M stores, and getting generally good reviews for everything except the abundance of apps. The problem is, of course, that everybody *doesn't* buy tablets (or anything) for just one feature. *Every* product is a trade-off of good things and bad and the trade-off and the buy/no-buy decision will depend on what that person values. So, yeah; Android is a weak OS (as an OS) and so is iOS. How weak, Surface is making clear. Some people care, some don't. Yeah, Android doesn't have as many different apps as iOS. But that is meaningless as long as it has the ones *you* need. Let the other guy worry about what they need. "Live and let die". Battery life? Some people want the highest possible number, many just want "good enough for one day". As Adam Osbourne used to say, adequacy is sufficient. Specmanship for specmanship's sake is for marketers and corporate drones who are *paid* to sell the party line. The Nexus comes with non-expandable storage? A show stopper for some of us, a non-issue for others. At this point of the game the important thing about reviews is finding out *facts*. Things that only living with the device will reveal. How the screen quality might compare to other FullHD-and-higher screens. Viewing angles, glare, reflections... What kind of battery life to expect. Charging speed. How good does the audio sound? Is it loud enough? Quality of build issues. Is the casing grippy or slippery? Is the weight properly distributed? Any odd ergonomic traits? There is more to a device than Specmanship and app counting; most people just want a product that will do what they need or at least come close enough to be worth their money. No device is perfect so we all have to make do with adequate and yes, Adequacy is sufficient. (Osbourned nailed it from day one.) Last edited by fjtorres; 11-03-2012 at 08:39 AM. |
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Graham, when the Anandtech benchmarks are released, we will revisit the battery issue with some measure of exactitude. Nexus 4 battery life is reportedly quite poor, as well (according to Engadget once again).
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What grates in these debates is seeing trade-offs which were once deemed unacceptable (iPhone lacking 4G) suddenly become irrelevant when other phones are concerned (Nexus 4). Or when the virtues of a device are praised without acknowledging any associated downsides. Of course, only a small number act like this, but they are a vocal minority. Fortunately, lately they only seem to talk back and forth between themselves. |
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There's a difference between a $600 phone not offering LTE, and a $350 phone not offering LTE.
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A complete 180° from a year ago. EDIT: And let us not forget that price is not the reason 4G is not included. It is because Google has no leverage with the carriers after giving them and OEMs control over the Android ecosystem. Last edited by holymadness; 11-03-2012 at 02:15 PM. |
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Their test, which is slightly different from Engadget's (it replicates web browsing instead of video playback) showed 8:72 of battery life. Let's say about eight hours, averaging the two. So not terrible, but not superlative. On par with or close to the 3rd gen iPad. Last edited by holymadness; 11-04-2012 at 12:13 AM. |
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There are some odd things on the table, though. My wife gets a lot more than 6 hours on her Samsung Tab 10.1, and is that a typo up the top, or does the iPad 2 appear twice? Graham Last edited by Graham; 11-04-2012 at 04:05 AM. |
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(shrug) But the point remains either way, no? The appeal of the device doesn't seem to hinge on the size of the appstore, just as it doesn't seem to be suffering from the relatively modest resolution of the screen. And just as most android buyers don't seem particularly dis-satisfied with their options. Last edited by fjtorres; 11-05-2012 at 05:55 PM. |
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