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Old 09-15-2011, 04:29 PM   #151
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I tend to think of there being two models of the iPad - the personal wifi model and the business 3G model, mainly because I can't see spending money for the 3G connection charges if I didn't at least have a writeoff for it, or an employer to pay for it.
You need the 3G version for GPS or location to work. And it works pretty well even without a simcard. It must be able to use the cellular towers anyway.
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:45 PM   #152
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You need the 3G version for GPS or location to work. And it works pretty well even without a simcard. It must be able to use the cellular towers anyway.
No, it's a real GPS unit. It can receive the signal being broadcast by GPS satellites. You just can't get it on the WiFi model because this feature is built in to the cellular chip.

It can't use the towers without service. However those are only needed for the "assisted" feature, which reduces the time it takes to get a GPS lock during a cold startup.

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Old 09-15-2011, 04:58 PM   #153
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No, it's a real GPS unit. It can receive the signal being broadcast by GPS satellites. You just can't get it on the WiFi model because this feature is built in to the cellular chip.

It can't use the towers without service. However those are only needed for the "assisted" feature, which reduces the time it takes to get a GPS lock during a cold startup.
I know it is a real GPS unit. But since it gives a relatively good position very fast and indoors it must use something else than GPS since GPS is not that fast. So it can use WiFi or the cellular towers. Are you relly sure you need a simcard to us the cellular triangulation?

But my point was that even if you do not want to pay for 3G data it is worth to get the 3G model anyway.
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Well, it appears that you like SD cards and think that anyone who doesn't share your preference for them is an imbecile.
Errr... no, not at all.
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:36 PM   #155
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Well, it appears that you like SD cards and think that anyone who doesn't share your preference for them is an imbecile. Says more about you than about Apple users, really.
No, just the "average user" you describe. What equiptment they choose doesn't matter.

I know this sounds old school, but there are other devices than smart phones and tablets....

Or is being in the "In crowd" so important?
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:55 PM   #156
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I can't think of a simpler way than what Android does. You connect the phone to your PC, and green android appears on your screen, you touch it, your SD card is mounted and you see it on your PC. When you're done, you eject from the PC and off you go.
What happens between "see it on your PC" and "when you're done"?
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:57 PM   #157
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Android will only make inroads on the tablet market when it is considerably cheaper than Apple, while offering the same or better specs.
Maybe at the 10" model level, but the variety of smaller cheaper models will sell more collectively than the iPads will at some point. It won't make any money for those companies, but Google will then have bragging rights in the phone and the tablet market.
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It's not an attack, did you miss the quotes? Anyway, you may want to read this.
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The BBC had the researchers give an MRI to one (1) Apple enthusiast. Now, the Macalope is not a scientist by trade, but he has taken some science classes, watched several episodes of Nova, and once saw Bill Nye in a restaurant, and he’s pretty sure that that’s not a very large sample size. Apparently, they’ve studied other people’s reactions to brands, though, and the horny one has no real reason to doubt that it’s true that Apple (or Google or Starbucks or Amazon but not Dell because that would be ridiculous) would fire up the same brain centers as religion in its fans. That, however, does not give you license to Photoshop a halo and robes on Steve Jobs. Just because the same center of the brain is active doesn’t mean Apple fans worship Apple.
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The BBC had the researchers give an MRI to one (1) Apple enthusiast.
Can't believe people still link to that ridiculous story as any kind of "proof" of anything except how gullible people are to a headline they want to desperately believe. Glad a religious studies researcher at least did some homework on it.
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Can't believe people still link to that ridiculous story as any kind of "proof" of anything except how gullible people are to a headline they want to desperately believe. Glad a religious studies researcher at least did some homework on it.
I see more religious fervor in the Apple haters than I've ever seen in an Apple fan.
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:19 AM   #161
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I see more religious fervor in the Apple haters than I've ever seen in an Apple fan.
Agreed. I don't really understand why people get so emotional and argumentative about the purchase of electronics. Get whatever best suits your needs and meets your requirements and don't worry about what others say.
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Agreed. I don't really understand why people get so emotional and argumentative about the purchase of electronics. Get whatever best suits your needs and meets your requirements and don't worry about what others say.
The reason is probably that this method was not used. They bought it because it was cool or other people bought it. Then there is a need to rationalize.
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Look, I don't know what you are arguing here. If you are trying to show that SD cards work all the time, that ALL mobile devices should have SD card slots on them, and that Apple is wrong for not including them on mobile devices, well, that's your opinion.
Um no. I think it was clear that I was agreeing to disagree with you over whether SD cards were too complicated for the average user to understand.

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The reason is probably that this method was not used. They bought it because it was cool or other people bought it. Then there is a need to rationalize.
Oh, great. That argument again. It's been all of 17 minutes since we last heard it.
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The reason is probably that this method was not used. They bought it because it was cool or other people bought it. Then there is a need to rationalize.
Oh, great. That argument again. It's been all of 17 minutes since we last heard it.
Never gets old to read rationalizations about other people's rationalizations
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