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Old 01-17-2020, 05:50 PM   #211
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I can certainly understand why some people would think it is, but I can also understand why some people would think it was highlighting those authors and increasing their sales.
Exactly. Both sides have valid reasoning on this.

The thread has really changed topic, too.
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Old 01-17-2020, 07:39 PM   #212
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Exactly. Both sides have valid reasoning on this.

The thread has really changed topic, too.
Because we been talking about minorities, no real issues as long as it is minorities. Where is the white caucasian straight only section at Amazon? You can specifically look for any minority, but you cannot specifically exclude them (that I know of). It would be clearly considered racist, and yet segregating minorities by giving them their own little safe place is still fueling it.

For online stores it is, in theory, easy for discoverability if the lists are generated dynamically on the fly. No matter how you traverse the tree, you shall find the book. As long as it is about content, and not author ethnicity.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:01 PM   #213
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This topic was being debated among romance readers when I first started reading ebook (approximately 10-12 years).

I think there's more awareness today. Maybe what was valuable to B&M bookstores then should be re-evaluated. It's hard to say how often they take a second look at their book shelving.

One of the advantages to electronic books, when tagged intelligently, is that books can be "shelved" in multiple locations. Those AA or LGBTQ readers who'd like an organized place to scan for books can go there. But the books can also be "shelved" in romance or mystery or science fiction, etc.

And for Lee, there are enough female romance readers want to read stories with male/male pairings, that one of the mainstream publishers has offered some of these (Avon - I don't know which of the Big 5 that falls under).

It's not a LOT of books, but they've seen enough traffic to offer them in their mainstream romance lines. The small pub/indies made a lot of money on these, when there was nowhere else to get them.

I'm not generally interested in the storylines, but I've seen them out there (usually came across them when searching for romances in Overdrive libraries).
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I’d bet the size of that group is sufficiently small such that it would still make sense to divide the two sections. Straight women wanting to read gay male romance would know where to go look for it.
You'd lose that wager. Man on man romances are not only read by straight women, they are written by them. It's a thing, and an exceptional case.
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You'd lose that wager. Man on man romances are not only read by straight women, they are written by them. It's a thing, and an exceptional case.
I just have to say, as a gay woman, I (1) know this to be true and (2) am completely befuddled and amused by it.
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HarperCollins Canada has withdrawn, including their Avon Imprint
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...k_wOvGW_M/edit

Avon Books tweeted they have withdrawn

Berkley Romance is abandoning the conference this year in protest, and Sourcebooks has made a statement they are also protesting.

Tule publishing announced on their official site they are pulling out

Kensington Publishing CEO posted official letter

Etc, Etc, Ect.

There's no way I can see the RWA coming back from this.
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Romance Writers of America president Damon Suede has resigned from the position after two weeks in the office following recall petitions filed by numerous chapters of the RWA seeking his removal. RWA executive director Carol Ritter has also tendered her resignation after assuming the role in November. - article


So it looks like they are trying to still push ahead with new leadership.
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