epub popup footnote background color

[increase]

Can the popup have a different background color?

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by increase

Can the popup have a different background color?

Depends on the renderer and your CSS. Generally, I dislike backgrounds since most of my ereading is done on eInk displays. Grey on grey is not a good recipe for legibility.

[BetterRed]

I read somewhere there's more than one shade of grey/gray

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

I read somewhere there's more than one shade of grey/gray.

For some people, a colored background can be hard to read. So the rule is don't do it because you could be causing problems for some of your readers.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

I read somewhere there's more than one shade of grey/gray

With eInk, you get either 8 or 16 shades of gray. What are the chances that converting as an example, blue text on a yellow background to a 16 level gray scale is going to use shades of gray that have sufficient contrast to be easily readable? BTW, that is a real example from one ebook I recently read.

I never did finish 50 Shades of Grey. Just not my cuppa despite several friends highly recommending it.

[hobnail]

Some ereaders have a night mode where it's white text on a black background (or maybe it's ereader software on tablets and phones). A footnote with a background color probably won't come out correctly in that situation.

[BetterRed]

IMO ereaders should have an option to present notes as 'footnotes' - i.e. at the bottom of the screen, preferably in a smaller font - like the calibre viewer once did Ψ³

If anyone knows of one please let me know.

Originally Posted by DNSB

I never did finish 50 Shades of Grey. Just not my cuppa . . .

- too much sugar in it for me.

BR

[roger64]

Hi

For what I can see, the same note on an ePub3 can today be displayed differently
- as a pop-up note (Calibre viewer)
- as an in-page note (Koreader)
- as a "classic" note (- converted- with Prince PDF)

I do not know yet of any option on any device/sofware that could let the user choose between the first two. It would certainly be great. Some books make use both of informative footnotes and , say, bibliographical endnotes, which could justify a diiferent rendering.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by roger64

- as an in-page note (Koreader)

I didn't know that.

I've shied away from KOReader- mainly that I 'want' something that's like a paper book - in the sense that it just works. The thought of adding stuff to an e-reader goes against the grain; well, my grain at least :lol:

But I'll have a look at it on my android phone.

Do I have a book with note-links and bibliography-links, not sure I do - one would hope they'd be distinguishable - but how I wonder.

BR

[roger64]

Here

https://github.com/koreader/koreader...page-footnotes

[Tex2002ans]

Originally Posted by roger64

- as an in-page note (Koreader)

That's glorious. I didn't know about this functionality either.

Originally Posted by roger64

I do not know yet of any option on any device/sofware that could let the user choose between the first two. It would certainly be great. Some books make use both of informative footnotes and , say, bibliographical endnotes, which could justify a diiferent rendering.

I always think back to the in-depth footnotes discussion from back in 2014, "Pop-up notes for iPad" (especially Posts #47+, between Paterson+me).

I haven't really seen much work done at all since then, besides more readers implementing popup footnotes via heuristics (Amazon/Kindle, Calibre).

Ultimately, like we discussed in that topic, it would be nice to be able to choose between all different renderings.

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And on a semi-related note:

I only just noticed that Calibre Editor's Tools > Reports > Links added a little preview at the bottom!



You click on a link, and can see a preview of what the link actually points to.

Absolutely fantastic, and I wonder when this was added.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by Tex2002ans

... Ultimately, like we discussed in that topic, it would be nice to be able to choose between all different renderings.

I just want what I want, bugger the rest of you

For some unbeknown reason my brain barfs on having a zillion options on a handheld device, don't like those Leatherman gadgets either.

Originally Posted by Tex2002ans

... I only just noticed that Calibre Editor's Tools > Reports > Links added a little preview at the bottom!

You click on a link, and can see a preview of what the link actually points to.

Absolutely fantastic, and I wonder when this was added.

I think it's been there since the calibre editor was first released, its definitely there in 2.85. It's what I'd like to have in the calbre-viewer and an ereader. I've noticed it does not need sup tags wrapped around the note number - not even in version 4 Ψ³

BR