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Old 11-12-2018, 09:44 AM   #106
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Just curiuous but if you disable the touchscreeen how do you do anything with the PW4?
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:54 AM   #108
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Hmm I think its a matter of personal preference and the type of lighting everyone individually has. I used to read off my phone before the switch to kindle and therefore have been very used to what you described as reading from a "visibly shining" screen.

I find it impossible to read at level 10 unless it is dark around me. I try to keep light as low as I can tolerate which is usually 12 to 14 depending on device and lighting in the room im in
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:47 PM   #109
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I have been following this thread because I am in the market for a new ereader. My Voyage just died after 20 months and I have been a little bummed about it. However, as I am setting here reading on my iPad (without page turn buttons) I realize that I just need to get over it and get a new reader. I can get a refurbished Voyage for $139 or a new Paperwhite for $129. The trade-in value for my Voyage is $5.00 according to Amazon. But the trade-in page says that they will give me 25% off of a new reader plus my trade-in value. Is that right? Add to that 6 months of KU and I think it is probably the best deal available to me right now. So far I am not seeing anyone saying anything bad about the new Paperwhite. It would be nice if the new Paperwhite would fit in my Voyage cover, but that would be too much to ask. LOL Advice welcome.
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Old 11-12-2018, 01:14 PM   #110
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I have been following this thread because I am in the market for a new ereader. My Voyage just died after 20 months and I have been a little bummed about it. However, as I am setting here reading on my iPad (without page turn buttons) I realize that I just need to get over it and get a new reader. I can get a refurbished Voyage for $139 or a new Paperwhite for $129. The trade-in value for my Voyage is $5.00 according to Amazon. But the trade-in page says that they will give me 25% off of a new reader plus my trade-in value. Is that right? Add to that 6 months of KU and I think it is probably the best deal available to me right now. So far I am not seeing anyone saying anything bad about the new Paperwhite. It would be nice if the new Paperwhite would fit in my Voyage cover, but that would be too much to ask. LOL Advice welcome.
It depends on what is more important to you, haptic page-press buttons (get the Voyage) or more storage and/or waterproofing (get the new Paperwhite). I doubt there's much difference between them in all the other aspects.
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Old 11-12-2018, 01:21 PM   #111
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It depends on what is more important to you, haptic page-press buttons (get the Voyage) or more storage and/or waterproofing (get the new Paperwhite). I doubt there's much difference between them in all the other aspects.
The PW4 has a 20% larger battery, but most people think the Voyage battery life is OK, but maybe it is a sign that amazon is backing off the trend of shrinking batteries started with the 7" Oasis.
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I have been following this thread because I am in the market for a new ereader. My Voyage just died after 20 months and I have been a little bummed about it. However, as I am setting here reading on my iPad (without page turn buttons) I realize that I just need to get over it and get a new reader. I can get a refurbished Voyage for $139 or a new Paperwhite for $129. The trade-in value for my Voyage is $5.00 according to Amazon. But the trade-in page says that they will give me 25% off of a new reader plus my trade-in value. Is that right? Add to that 6 months of KU and I think it is probably the best deal available to me right now. So far I am not seeing anyone saying anything bad about the new Paperwhite. It would be nice if the new Paperwhite would fit in my Voyage cover, but that would be too much to ask. LOL Advice welcome.
Looking online, the new Paperwhite is larger than the Voyage:

Voyage: 6.4" x 4.5" x 0.30"
new Paperwhite: 6.6" x 4.6" x 0.32"

Therefore, I doubt the Voyage case will fit.
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Old 11-12-2018, 01:55 PM   #113
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I have been following this thread because I am in the market for a new ereader. My Voyage just died after 20 months and I have been a little bummed about it. However, as I am setting here reading on my iPad (without page turn buttons) I realize that I just need to get over it and get a new reader. I can get a refurbished Voyage for $139 or a new Paperwhite for $129. The trade-in value for my Voyage is $5.00 according to Amazon. But the trade-in page says that they will give me 25% off of a new reader plus my trade-in value. Is that right? Add to that 6 months of KU and I think it is probably the best deal available to me right now. So far I am not seeing anyone saying anything bad about the new Paperwhite. It would be nice if the new Paperwhite would fit in my Voyage cover, but that would be too much to ask. LOL Advice welcome.
I have an old fire I’d like to trade in but they only allow you to trade in the fire for a newer fire, not eink kindle. That said, I can trade in my very nice pw first gen with super working battery and get the newest pw for only $72. That is actually not a horrible deal. Is Amazon good at agreeing to pay the valued price ($25 for mine)? - and not saying “hey, we think it’s only worth $15” once you’ve already sent it in.
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:26 PM   #115
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I have an old fire I’d like to trade in but they only allow you to trade in the fire for a newer fire, not eink kindle. That said, I can trade in my very nice pw first gen with super working battery and get the newest pw for only $72. That is actually not a horrible deal. Is Amazon good at agreeing to pay the valued price ($25 for mine)? - and not saying “hey, we think it’s only worth $15” once you’ve already sent it in.
From what I can tell, there are only two trade-in values: $5 non-working and $25 working.

Got $25 for my PW2 with perfect display but minor scuffs (normal wear and tear) on the chassis.
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:55 PM   #116
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I have been following this thread because I am in the market for a new ereader. My Voyage just died after 20 months and I have been a little bummed about it. However, as I am setting here reading on my iPad (without page turn buttons) I realize that I just need to get over it and get a new reader. I can get a refurbished Voyage for $139 or a new Paperwhite for $129. ...
Amazon also has some Voyages in Good or Very Good condition, selling for $99 and $105 — sold via "Amazon Warehouse." These also come with free, two day shipping.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...y_technology=0

On this page they also say that new Voyages will be available on November 25th, available for pre-order now.
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On this page they also say that new Voyages will be available on November 25th, available for pre-order now.
Thank you very much for this information! I just pre-ordered one. None of the newer e-readers can replace the Voyage for me. It has the best screen regarding clarity and contrast and the best size (in my opinion).
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Thank you very much for this information! I just pre-ordered one. None of the newer e-readers can replace the Voyage for me. It has the best screen regarding clarity and contrast and the best size (in my opinion).
I don't know how much longer they'll keep finding more Voyages, but sooner or later they'll disappear completely (I'm afraid). Meanwhile, if anyone is looking for one, just do a Google search for "Kindle Voyage" and then look at "Other Sellers" (they'll often disappear in Amazon searches). What's funny is that the $199 new ones just showed up AFTER I originally posted the link for the used ones. So Kindle Voyage availability is definitely in constant flux.

EDIT: And now the new ones have disappeared again. Unless you want one with cellular connectivity.

And now the International Version (without special offers) is available here ...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...&condition=new

(I don't know what "International Version" means.)

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I have been following this thread because I am in the market for a new ereader. My Voyage just died after 20 months and I have been a little bummed about it. However, as I am setting here reading on my iPad (without page turn buttons) I realize that I just need to get over it and get a new reader. I can get a refurbished Voyage for $139 or a new Paperwhite for $129. The trade-in value for my Voyage is $5.00 according to Amazon. But the trade-in page says that they will give me 25% off of a new reader plus my trade-in value. Is that right? Add to that 6 months of KU and I think it is probably the best deal available to me right now. So far I am not seeing anyone saying anything bad about the new Paperwhite. It would be nice if the new Paperwhite would fit in my Voyage cover, but that would be too much to ask. LOL Advice welcome.
That's really the same for me, I love my Voyage because of the haptic buttons. Thankfully I have no problem reading on a 6 inch screen. I think either way Paperwhite 4 or Voyage are great choices . The differences only matter if you want to use audio books and that's when the extra storage really counts. Water proofing is nice too. Good Luck with your choice !
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Yeah, I'm thinking Amazon isn't allowing them in yet or something. There's no way no one would have posted an Amazon review by now, I'd be pretty surprised if that were the case.
They must have unlocked it for reviews today because they finally started showing up on the product page.
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