01-02-2021, 05:16 AM | #31 |
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What are you talking about? i purchased a book, then I read it on whichever of my devices I want. The book was paid for. What compensation is not provided?
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But you can create a security backup. Thalia allows for its Tolinos family use, Amazon for the Kindles too. |
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In no way is my reading a book purchased from Amazon on my Kobo stealing from the author. Yes it is a break of the TOS. But it's not theft in any sense of the word. The author got what they asked for the book.
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If you want to read this text on your Kobo, you have to get a kepub / epub license from one of the selling shops / libraries. If you don't do that, are you violating copyright law, which prohibits any modification of the file - or do you not see that a format conversion is a modification of a file? A paper book is your property and you can do whatever you want with it. But not a file. |
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Again, if you have a license, then you have a license to use it on one device. If you want to read this file on a second device, you have to get a second license.
The author is paid for each of these licenses. The exceptions to this are the family options that some shops offer, but then only for the devices they sell. |
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There might be an argument that putting a Kindle book on a Kobo, or a Kobo source book on a Kindle is illegal in some jurisdictions. But, ignoring the issues with DRM as both store have plenty of books with no DRM, I have never heard this claim before. I'm pretty sure it isn't an illegal here in Australia, but, I cannot point to laws one way or the other. You make a categorical statement it is illegal in the EU. Can you point to the EU law so that we, and most especially those who live under those laws, can be enlightened? And, I'm still waiting for you to suggest an actual device. Not a "use an e-ink tablet", but the make and model of one the OP can look at. And to the OP: Bet you didn't think your simple question would trigger such a storm. |
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With epubs it's not even a question. You can sideload the same epub to your Kobo, your Nook or your Pocketbook without modifying the file. Removing the DRM and/or converting after the purchase may violate the copyright and the TOS of the seller, but again the author gets their money in either case. You seem to have the violation of TOS, the violation of copyright and a criminal offense like stealing all mixed up. They're not the same thing. Last edited by Sirtel; 01-02-2021 at 06:47 AM. |
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But "branded" devices do not offer the capabilities offered by Android devices.
They may be more convenient to use - but only to a very limited extent. If that's enough for you, you can pay more in total. In any case, I can get the books from anywhere and read them in whatever setting I want. And that is not directly possible with any "brand" device without "messing around". |
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