DX Folder Breakthrough!

Sheikspeare · 10-17-2009, 11:17 AM

Okay, the question is: are we ever going to get one?

As the DX slowly spreads its wings around the globe, more users will no doubt suffer folderless misery, not to mention the anguish of poor PDF navigation.

Let's please keep the issue alive.

HarryT · 10-17-2009, 11:21 AM

There are numerous devices available which do have folder support. Presumably, those people for whom this is an important issue will buy one of those, and not a Kindle DX.

Sheikspeare · 10-17-2009, 12:26 PM

Well, of course that's not entirely true. Decisions are seldom based on one feature. The world doesn't simply divide into folder wanters and non-folder wanters. Many of us like the DX but would be much happier if they added a basic feature like folder functionality.

In an ideal world, good companies listen to their customers. A firmware release is not inconceivable.

FOLDERS! FOLDERS! FOLDERS! Lets have ya!
:-)

LucasCorso · 10-17-2009, 12:49 PM

Unfortunately without folders I can't use my Kindle DX as much as I could otherwise. I would like to have a folder named "work" for example (maybe password protected), different folders for classics, english books, other languages, a folder for my girlfriend. As it is now, I keep only a few titles in all that 3.3 Gb space...

Mr. Goodbar · 10-17-2009, 06:52 PM

I know a lot of people really like folders and I think how we use our devices is very personal, but what about searches? Once indexed the search function works really well on the kindle. I have a few hundred books, but I'm typically only reading a handful at the same time which means the most recent read list works well.

Is this mainly an academic issue where you might have many papers/reference documents active at any one time? Not trying to be confrontational just one of those issues that's not a big deal for me, but it is for others and I'm trying to understand it better.

Gideon · 10-17-2009, 06:55 PM

No, it's not just academic. I rarely have a problem finding a particular book, but often I want to look through my books. But maybe only fiction... well, I don't want to go through ten pages of books (especially with slow page turns) to find 7 fiction books in all that.

catsittingstill · 10-17-2009, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Goodbar

I know a lot of people really like folders and I think how we use our devices is very personal, but what about searches? Once indexed the search function works really well on the kindle. I have a few hundred books, but I'm typically only reading a handful at the same time which means the most recent read list works well.

Is this mainly an academic issue where you might have many papers/reference documents active at any one time? Not trying to be confrontational just one of those issues that's not a big deal for me, but it is for others and I'm trying to understand it better.

I thought it wasn't possible to search across multiple pdfs in the Kindle DX? Has that changed? If so, huzzah! If not, and you have fifty articles on various issues having to do with RNA Polymerase, you're going to have a fun time finding the five on crystal structures of murine RNA Polymerase. If you could stick those five in a separate folder, that would help. It wouldn't be as good as the search function, but it would be better than nothing.

You can search across .azw documents in the DX (at least since you can do that in the K2 I'd be very surprised if you couldn't in the DX) so search could somewhat substitute for folders for those documents. But even for those I don't know that you can search on, for instance, read versus unread. Or fantasy versus historical.

I sure wish I had folders on my K2 and if I had a DX I'd want them there too.

emellaich · 10-18-2009, 02:01 AM

Well, there is a work-around on non-DRM books if you use Calibre.

Give your books a tag, such as "work" in Calibre. Then tell Calibre to convert (reconvert) the books to mobi format and to "Add metatags" to the book. For example: work, tag2, unread

You will end up with a line something like this (I don't remember the exact format): ttwork tttag2 ttunread

As a result a search for ttwork, or tttag2 or ttunread will find this book.

I had asked KovidGoyal to add the tt delimiter to each tag to make searching more accurate. The issue is that if you search for "work" you would find a lot of books that have the word work in them. Prepending the "tt" to a tag creates a unique 'word' that won't be confused with real words in the book.

MLH

Slow_hand · 10-20-2009, 06:17 AM

What a misleading title. Thanks for nothing.Pat yourself on the back for fooling me.

pboss · 10-20-2009, 12:23 PM

Lol agreed, stop practicing your marketing gimmicks here.

jessezhao · 10-20-2009, 10:54 PM

kindle dx now opensource，mybe we can develop add this function to originally application.

JSWolf · 10-20-2009, 11:00 PM

The topic really should be changed as it makes one think the DX now has folder support.

emellaich · 10-21-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessezhao

kindle dx now opensource，mybe we can develop add this function to originally application.

Really? I know that the DX/Kindle is built on Linux and Amazon has always released the Linux-related modules they had to make publicly available. This has led to many to think its open source, but the actual Kindle application has not been open source. Has this changed?

MLH

jessezhao · 10-23-2009, 12:40 AM

in china QT Embedded ported on Kindle DX.
the next i want to develop some file browser use qt gui sdk,and maybe we can port some well pdf reader on kindle dx

10-17-2009, 11:17 AM	#1
Sheikspeare Groupie Posts: 181 Karma: 290 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: PR-505 / Kindle DX	DX Folder Breakthrough! Okay, the question is: are we ever going to get one? As the DX slowly spreads its wings around the globe, more users will no doubt suffer folderless misery, not to mention the anguish of poor PDF navigation. Let's please keep the issue alive.

10-17-2009, 12:26 PM	#3
Sheikspeare Groupie Posts: 181 Karma: 290 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: PR-505 / Kindle DX	Well, of course that's not entirely true. Decisions are seldom based on one feature. The world doesn't simply divide into folder wanters and non-folder wanters. Many of us like the DX but would be much happier if they added a basic feature like folder functionality. In an ideal world, good companies listen to their customers. A firmware release is not inconceivable. FOLDERS! FOLDERS! FOLDERS! Lets have ya! :-) Last edited by Sheikspeare; 10-17-2009 at 12:28 PM.

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10-17-2009, 11:21 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	There are numerous devices available which do have folder support. Presumably, those people for whom this is an important issue will buy one of those, and not a Kindle DX.

10-17-2009, 12:49 PM	#4
LucasCorso Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 239 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Belgium Device: Kindle DX	Unfortunately without folders I can't use my Kindle DX as much as I could otherwise. I would like to have a folder named "work" for example (maybe password protected), different folders for classics, english books, other languages, a folder for my girlfriend. As it is now, I keep only a few titles in all that 3.3 Gb space...

10-17-2009, 06:52 PM	#5
Mr. Goodbar Wizard Posts: 1,005 Karma: 98078 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Mini 4	I know a lot of people really like folders and I think how we use our devices is very personal, but what about searches? Once indexed the search function works really well on the kindle. I have a few hundred books, but I'm typically only reading a handful at the same time which means the most recent read list works well. Is this mainly an academic issue where you might have many papers/reference documents active at any one time? Not trying to be confrontational just one of those issues that's not a big deal for me, but it is for others and I'm trying to understand it better.

10-17-2009, 06:55 PM	#6
Gideon Wearer of Pants Posts: 1,050 Karma: 7634 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norman, OK Device: Amazon Kindle DX / iPhone	No, it's not just academic. I rarely have a problem finding a particular book, but often I want to look through my books. But maybe only fiction... well, I don't want to go through ten pages of books (especially with slow page turns) to find 7 fiction books in all that.

10-18-2009, 02:01 AM	#8
emellaich Wizard Posts: 1,101 Karma: 4388403 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Palm>Ebookman>IPaq>Axim>Cybook>Kndl2>IPAD>Kndl3SO>Voyager>Oasis	Well, there is a work-around on non-DRM books if you use Calibre. Give your books a tag, such as "work" in Calibre. Then tell Calibre to convert (reconvert) the books to mobi format and to "Add metatags" to the book. For example: work, tag2, unread You will end up with a line something like this (I don't remember the exact format): ttwork tttag2 ttunread As a result a search for ttwork, or tttag2 or ttunread will find this book. I had asked KovidGoyal to add the tt delimiter to each tag to make searching more accurate. The issue is that if you search for "work" you would find a lot of books that have the word work in them. Prepending the "tt" to a tag creates a unique 'word' that won't be confused with real words in the book. MLH

10-20-2009, 06:17 AM	#9
Slow_hand Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 326 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore Device: Amazon Kindle 2	What a misleading title. Thanks for nothing.Pat yourself on the back for fooling me.

10-20-2009, 12:23 PM	#10
pboss Evangelist Posts: 408 Karma: 646 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: none	Lol agreed, stop practicing your marketing gimmicks here.

10-20-2009, 10:54 PM	#11
jessezhao JesseZhao Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: 218A	kindle dx now opensource，mybe we can develop add this function to originally application.

10-20-2009, 11:00 PM	#12
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,424 Karma: 129358310 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The topic really should be changed as it makes one think the DX now has folder support.

10-23-2009, 12:40 AM	#14
jessezhao JesseZhao Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: 218A	in china QT Embedded ported on Kindle DX. the next i want to develop some file browser use qt gui sdk,and maybe we can port some well pdf reader on kindle dx

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