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I'd like to have it! | 53 | 37.59% | |
I am using search function. | 21 | 14.89% | |
I use shelves. | 53 | 37.59% | |
I'd like to have collections. | 13 | 9.22% | |
I don't need it. | 59 | 41.84% | |
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06-28-2013, 03:25 AM | #151 |
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One of my first computers used CP/M. I remember having to press ctrl-c every time you changed floppy disks because CP/M couldn't detect that you'd inserted a new disk and without the ctrl-c you could screw up the file system on the disk. How's that for "user-friendly"?!?
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One language that I really struggled with was RPG; getting everything in the right column was always a chore. |
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06-28-2013, 11:26 AM | #154 | |
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For columns, there was the day I discovered that JCL did not see anything past the 80th column. No warnings, just characters that went directly to the bit bucket. Definitely, a WTF moment. Hmmm... what else? Forth was a learning experience. Regards, David |
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06-28-2013, 11:48 AM | #155 |
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Punched tape. I don't want to ever see that again.
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06-28-2013, 01:57 PM | #156 |
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APL That was the first computer language I learnt; Grade 8 in high school in Montreal )
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06-28-2013, 07:25 PM | #158 |
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Fortunately I didn't have to worry about punched cards, that was a little before my time But one of my first jobs after leaving tech was working on payroll and accounting systems that used COBOL. This was on Prime systems, I never had any IBM experience so no JCL for me (although we had CPL which I think was something similar).
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I never had to endure Forth, but I remember reading about an English home computer, the Jupiter Ace, that came out in the early 80's and that included Forth as it's built-in language rather than the more traditional BASIC. This interested me quite a bit but I guess it was a step to far for the general public and was the main reason this home computer didn't sell too well. I used PL/1 a bit. Prime created a couple of spin-off languages that were based on PL/1, PLP and SPL, that they used internally for systems development. I was quite lucky in that I worked for the New Zealand agent for Prime and so we had access to a lot of Prime source code. Looking through the source of Primos was fun, found a few undocumented routines that I made use of. Ah, happy memories... |
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06-28-2013, 08:24 PM | #160 | |
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My first S-100 bus computer had a front panel, the next edition had a home brewed boot EPROM that allowed me to do quite a bit of stuff from the console including reading a Tarbell format cassette tape to load programs. The fun of driving down to Seattle to buy a specific model of portable cassette tape player from J. C. Penney as it was THE recommended unit. Regards, David |
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06-29-2013, 01:01 AM | #162 |
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Oh my goodness, we've stumbled into the "Old Fart's Computer Club and Home for Indigent Hackers"... Hmmm, let's see, I recall the Altair, but was a bit too young to get my hands on one, bought my first PC as a teenager, a Timex-Sinclair TS1000 with 2K of memory upgraded to a whopping 16KB as soon as I could, quickly moved to an Apple ][+ before college, then three years later went to work for a company building S-100 bus based industrial controls. Ah, me. Those were the days, nothing like hoping you hadn't driven several hundred miles and needed eproms you didn't have to fix something... the good old days.
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Looking back, what I remember most is the fun we had with computers then. Microcomputers were the domain of the hobbyist and there were so many different systems, users groups and magazines. There were all the hobbyist run BBS systems and long distance phone bills that were unbelievable. Now, it's serious business and not that much fun anymore. I was digging in the basement a few months back and ran into my collection of Byte and Kilobaud magazines. The first Robert Tinney cover for Byte brought back a lot of memories. Regards, David Last edited by DNSB; 06-29-2013 at 01:39 AM. Reason: So I can't spell... |
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06-29-2013, 03:32 AM | #164 |
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Yes, it was FUN. So many miss(ed) out on that because they only look(ed) at them as another means to an end. I can't properly express the joy of building an allophone based speech synthesizer laboriously point to point wired on a PC board for the Apple][+ bus and hearing it say "Hello Mahster" for the first time in an oddly Scottish inflected dialect. Let alone to appreciate all the brain sweat and time it took to do such things and now today treat everything like an appliance. I mean, how many understand squat about a car but the bare minimum required to drive it -let alone computers or microcontroller based anythings?
I fear, perhaps unfairly, that we're breeding generations of high technology users who are clueless about underlying principles or even manufacturing. I fear we, they, may one day find themselves in one of those dystopian futures where when things no longer function no one, or damned few, has a clue how to make them work. Or that our continued reliance on foreign production will eventually resort in our having few people in the US capable of actually manufacturing anything... |
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