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My personal view on books sharing: I have a Kobo. My better half has a Nook. I buy all our ebooks from Amazon and sideload. I would have no issue sideloading the same books on to the Nook if our reading tastes were similar.
I could justify it by mentioning that our Amazon accounts are linked and I believe the books would show up in both anyway. But realistically I would feel the same regardless. I wouldn't share my ebooks with my uncle, even though our reading tastes are more similar. |
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Let's rephrase this: watermarking saves the honest users the trouble, and is just as efficient at protecting the copyright holders' interests. Plus, it would save DiapDealer the trouble of writing honest folk between quotation marks, so subtly insinuating that they're nothing of the sort. Edit: as shown in the discussion below, the "insinuation" was only in my mind. Sorry about that. Quote:
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The quotes were to accentuate the commonly-held misconception around here that DRM-removal of purchases is somehow more inherently "honest" than removing DRM from library books. That the former causes no harm while the latter can cause nothing BUT harm.There are, of course, honest and dishonest people on both sides of the equation. It just personally bugs me that people are willing to see only the good in people who remove DRM from their purchases, but can only see the bad in those who remove DRM from library books. As mentioned previously; pirate sites are full of books liberated the seemingly-inherent "honest" way.
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Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding then. (I won't edit it out of my message because it would only cause more confusion)
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No problem. I probably should have said "liberated the 'honest way'" as opposed to "by honest folk" to begin with.
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Here's another take on watermarks. |
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Of course you are correct, technically. But everyone understands what is meant. What does stopping the conversation to point out a technical detail add to the discussion? I used to grouse about people saying 'ATM machine' or 'PIN number', but don't any longer. |
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So yes a watermark is DRM in its simplest form. Sorry but HarryT is 100% correct. |
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I see noone on here is a believer in the holy public domain.
My first foray into ebooks was from borrowing a spare ereader from a roommate who was a pirate. He gave me a chunk of his collection, and I think I still have it somewhere. I no longer read pirated books, for reasons already discussed on this thread. However, if I bought a book from Amazon, there is no way I would leave the DRM on it. Besides the fact that I use a nook, Amazon has a history of reclaiming books they have already sold. Yes, it happens rarely, but I have read their TOS, and even if that was a few years ago, it makes me feel like they are evil. I will remove the DRM from a free book if I want to give it to someone, I can't understand why they DRM them anyway. I have never lent an ebook to anyone, although I have traded ereaders for a week, or even an ereader for a book for a while. I do not see anything wrong with that. I personally dislike the fact that I cannot lend ebooks easily like pbooks morally. I actually read this thread hoping someone would have a solution to that, but noone did. |
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Just because you got it free from Amazon does not make it a free book. What you paid doesn't matter. I have a free copy of the Da Vinci Code that I got on Amazon. It even has an excerpt from Inferno. Turns out it was "on sale" to promote the new book. |
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