[GUI Plugin] Modify ePub - Page 70

BetterRed · 03-04-2016, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by theducks

The Toolbag PI treats those as Naked spans (ignores id= part)

Yes indeedy, I can do it there with

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I'd still like it in Modify because a) I could do it in bulk and b) I always run Modify over new epubs to remove the crud like covers and non cd metadata.

To use the Toolbag I have to fire up the editor, click a button and tell the toolbag what to do (every time - hint, hint DD).

But at least now when they do irritate me, which is in the editor, I can get rid of them toot sweet

Thanks for the tip.

BR

Rev. Bob · 03-05-2016, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

So my question is, can Modify be adjusted to remove these unreferenced spans.

The problem with that IDea* is that Modify doesn't build a table of IDs such that it can look and see which ones get referenced and which don't. It's an in-the-moment tool, not a holistic one, and this is one of the shortcomings of that approach. Since removing referenced spans would be A Very Bad Thing for navigation, the only remaining practical option Modify has is to assume that ID attributes are significant and must be preserved.

I run into a similar situation all the time with CSS classes. As a result, sometimes I end up running my "cleanup" script (applying Modify with a certain profile, including strip-spans) multiple times while processing a particularly obnoxious book. It's annoying, but there's really no help for it.

* Hee. Cheap puns are fun.

BetterRed · 03-05-2016, 01:05 AM

@Rev. Bob thanks for the feedback, I can get by with DD's tool.

BR

chrisridd · 03-23-2016, 07:25 AM

Something I often find myself doing with purchased epubs is "normalising" the font sizes. It would be nice if this could be automated.

What I mean by this is that all the font-size declarations in the CSS are altered (almost always increased, what is it with publishers and small fonts?) so that the body text is all CSS "medium". So I'd normally do something like this:

xx-small -> x-small
x-small -> small
small -> medium
medium -> large
large -> x-large
x-large -> xx-large
xx-large -> xx-large (not sure it matters)

Of course there are also relative font sizes specified in percentages, which would be a similar sort of problem.

Identifying "body text" is probably statistical - counting the declarations used by "most" divs and ps in the text will give a good idea. I just open a good-sized chapter in Sigil and look at the start of the source and have a stab :-)

theducks · 03-23-2016, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisridd

Something I often find myself doing with purchased epubs is "normalising" the font sizes. It would be nice if this could be automated.

What I mean by this is that all the font-size declarations in the CSS are altered (almost always increased, what is it with publishers and small fonts?) so that the body text is all CSS "medium". So I'd normally do something like this:

xx-small -> x-small
x-small -> small
small -> medium
medium -> large
large -> x-large
x-large -> xx-large
xx-large -> xx-large (not sure it matters)

Of course there are also relative font sizes specified in percentages, which would be a similar sort of problem.

Identifying "body text" is probably statistical - counting the declarations used by "most" divs and ps in the text will give a good idea. I just open a good-sized chapter in Sigil and look at the start of the source and have a stab :-)

I convert named sizes to (my value) em
font-size: 'medium' just gets removed, since that is my Base font size the I set in <body>

BTW I run the 'chained' (Group) Saved Search feature in Sigil to do this

chrisridd · 03-23-2016, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

BTW I run the 'chained' (Group) Saved Search feature in Sigil to do this

Oh, I hadn't noticed this feature in Sigil before - thanks! That will make this a whole lot easier!!

Francois_C · 03-25-2016, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisridd

what is it with publishers and small fonts?

…and also larger right margins: they probably naively try to emulate paper books (with a larger right margin, all pages look like a right page, whilst they should only think of making the best use of the screen surface in order to make reading easier and faster. To my mind, ebooks and ereaders are often made by people who don't like reading.

I also would love such a function in Calibre.

To the moment, I do the same as theducks, but I did not know the 'chained' (Group) Saved Search feature in Sigil either. Thanks, theducks!

theducks · 03-25-2016, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francois_C

To the moment, I do the same as theducks, but I did not know the 'chained' (Group) Saved Search feature in Sigil either. Thanks, theducks!

It took me quite awhile to understand

Group search
The instructions were not wrong. I was not in Borg mode (a common problem. Failed to assimilate

)

DoctorOhh · 03-25-2016, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisridd

Something I often find myself doing with purchased epubs is "normalising" the font sizes. It would be nice if this could be automated.

What I mean by this is that all the font-size declarations in the CSS are altered (almost always increased, what is it with publishers and small fonts?) so that the body text is all CSS "medium". So I'd normally do something like this:

xx-small -> x-small
x-small -> small
small -> medium
medium -> large
large -> x-large
x-large -> xx-large
xx-large -> xx-large (not sure it matters)

Of course there are also relative font sizes specified in percentages, which would be a similar sort of problem.

Identifying "body text" is probably statistical - counting the declarations used by "most" divs and ps in the text will give a good idea. I just open a good-sized chapter in Sigil and look at the start of the source and have a stab :-)

I do this using font size rescaling when converting books.

theducks · 03-25-2016, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisridd

Something I often find myself doing with purchased epubs is "normalising" the font sizes. It would be nice if this could be automated.

What I mean by this is that all the font-size declarations in the CSS are altered (almost always increased, what is it with publishers and small fonts?) so that the body text is all CSS "medium". So I'd normally do something like this:

xx-small -> x-small
x-small -> small
small -> medium
medium -> large
large -> x-large
x-large -> xx-large
xx-large -> xx-large (not sure it matters)

Of course there are also relative font sizes specified in percentages, which would be a similar sort of problem.

Identifying "body text" is probably statistical - counting the declarations used by "most" divs and ps in the text will give a good idea. I just open a good-sized chapter in Sigil and look at the start of the source and have a stab :-)

you could simply bump the base font size in the CSS for

Code:

Body { font-size: 1.2em; }

Assumes 1em was default

no need to touch the other places

Francois_C · 04-01-2016, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

you could simply bump the base font size in the CSS for

Code:

Body { font-size: 1.2em; }

Assumes 1em was default

no need to touch the other places

Of course: This is the first thing I try. But sometimes it does not work. Maybe my knowledge of HTML and CSS is not sufficient.

theducks · 04-01-2016, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francois_C

Of course: This is the first thing I try. But sometimes it does not work. Maybe my knowledge of HTML and CSS is not sufficient.

Nah!

There is some really unnecessary coding that publishers include because THEY don't understand (care) inheritance or native defaults.

If you specify a font-size, it is an OVERRIDE of the previous-inherited size (no font-size: 1em; in a class, that cancels the <body> setting)

In most cases, I only specify what I want to CHANGE.
If I want a smaller font, I use a percentage (scales the body size)

I also use a unique, class for clarity when it encompasses the whole paragraph,

Code:

<p class="foo">Stuff</p>

instead of

Code:

<p class="foo"><span class="bold"><span class=:big">Stuff</span></span></p>

Bigger CSS, but smaller TEXT section files

Divingduck · 04-02-2016, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

It took me quite awhile to understand

Group search
The instructions were not wrong. I was not in Borg mode (a common problem. Failed to assimilate

)

BTW, you can do it with the calibre editor too.

You only need to select more than one saved searches

Rev. Bob · 04-04-2016, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divingduck

BTW, you can do it with the calibre editor too.

You only need to select more than one saved searches

Could you expand on that a bit?

BetterRed · 04-04-2016, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev. Bob

Could you expand on that a bit?

You can select an arbitrary number of saved searches in the 'usual' way (ctrl+left mouse button click) and execute them - Find/Replace/Replace All.

I don't think there's a way to save the multi item selection so you can reuse.

BR

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BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,575 Karma: 26954694 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@Rev. Bob thanks for the feedback, I can get by with DD's tool. BR

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chrisridd Guru Posts: 928 Karma: 2146660 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: London, UK Device: Kobo Aura, Kobo Aura ONE, Marvin 3	Something I often find myself doing with purchased epubs is "normalising" the font sizes. It would be nice if this could be automated. What I mean by this is that all the font-size declarations in the CSS are altered (almost always increased, what is it with publishers and small fonts?) so that the body text is all CSS "medium". So I'd normally do something like this: xx-small -> x-small x-small -> small small -> medium medium -> large large -> x-large x-large -> xx-large xx-large -> xx-large (not sure it matters) Of course there are also relative font sizes specified in percentages, which would be a similar sort of problem. Identifying "body text" is probably statistical - counting the declarations used by "most" divs and ps in the text will give a good idea. I just open a good-sized chapter in Sigil and look at the start of the source and have a stab :-)

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