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Maybe we can use herbal essence for mean books with the a herby theme that are deemed essential reading.
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I fear my joke has fallen on deaf ears. Oh well... if you have to explain it, it probably wasn't funny.
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It seems to me that haertig feels that narrow sub-sub-genres are harmful, while you think they are just useless and annoying -- please correct me if I'm wrong! Some sub-sub-genres are useful to me, like hopepunk and fantasy of manners. Others aren't. ...I'm starting to get curious about herbal horror, though... My first association was something with triffids Hm, yes, I probably agree. At least, thinking about it I'll classify historical novels with magic as urban fantasy too, not just contemporary ones. |
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No. Like you you, I think an urban environment does play a big part in most urban fantasies. Not that "takes place in the real world" isn't part of it. I just don't think it's enough by itself. Last edited by DiapDealer; 05-14-2022 at 06:24 AM. |
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But yes, I guess it feels like urban fantasy should have an urban setting. When talking about Brennan's Unspoken (the gothic book I mentioned in post 15), I've sometimes called it "rural fantasy", so "urban fantasy" but not in cities. But that's not a very interesting subgroup of books (I think?), so I don't see it catching on. There are a lot of books which clearly belong somewhere in the group of "fantasy and science fiction and related stuff", but don't really have a home in a clear subgenre. And that's OK, I guess. |
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Certainly. It doesn't all have to have a clear subgenre. But there's just too much overlap with "fantasy in the real world" for me to consider it the determining factor in declaring something as urban fantasy.. There's magical realism and historical fantasy. Both of which are fantasy that take place in the "real world".
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