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Old 11-15-2017, 10:15 PM   #2851
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The OP should be edited to be 100% clear about that fact. As in replace the links with "go google for _filename_, md5 checksum should be X".
The md5 checksums are:
1) Public (you must not have tried clicking the links).
2)Also attached to the first post.

I suggest that you volunteer to write-up and maintain that write-up for the next JB.
That way it will meet all of your requirements.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:37 PM   #2852
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The OP should be edited to be 100% clear about that fact. As in replace the links with "go google for _filename_, md5 checksum should be X".
I have started a wiki to mirror this page, so we do not need knc1 to make every change to his first post when something changes.

Please feel free to change the links I have put to his md5 files to the actual text value.

I have already made it so the links to the download file will redirect to google.

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/5_x_Jailbreak


Anyone who wants to help beautify that is welcome to as well.

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Old 11-15-2017, 11:07 PM   #2853
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@knc1: 1) I'm not original poster, you are. 2) I don't need instructions since my PW3 is jailbroaken while on firmware 5.6.5.

And even if that wasn't the case I spent THAT much time on MobileRead forum to have memory of almost all the stages the jailbreaking directions went through, thus I'm perfectly aware of the reasons why those links are now private.

I just stated / observed a fact: if those links are no longer valid and that is the permanent state of things then the whole 'primary, secondary" spoilers need to be removed and replaced with just list of filenames + a notice "go google them / ask the Chinese for a copy /whatever". That will avoid confusion for new users that "land" to MobileRead forums for the first time in their lives, usually by following Google result or any other random place on the internet that links to "the origin of all those things" that is naturally MobileRead. And it will take much less time to do the changes then you personally have to spend your time day after day answering the same set of n00b questions that arise because of that now deprecated spoiler. Maybe those spoilers with link don't even have to be deleted, maybe just adding big red letters stating "link are dead, google alternative" should work as a quick-fix / confusion reducer :d


Gist of it: remove the [problem] expectation that those links should work and endless stream of same-y questions will stop.

Or don't, your time, your choice. Until then I'll continue (when I'm around in appropriate time) to inform "random google user #56465446" what should be done and is not stated in OP instructions.


@coplate: Your work on the wiki is appreciated (as is @knc1's "legacy form").. it's a step in right directions. But this thread's OP should still have at least one last edit that would dump everything in one huge spoiler + add a notice 'this is no longer kept up-to-date, go to this link [the wiki page]"... since all over the internet places will still link back to this thread. Since the thread starter is still very much active on this subforum that is an option we have.

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Old 11-16-2017, 06:16 AM   #2854
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There is no determination that what the situation is now is a permanent state of things.
If it where, I would have changed them.

None of this forum's moderators are active here, why don't you volunteer?
Being a critic is easy, being an effective contributor takes time and effort.
A lot more time and effort than just venting when you are pissed off that things are not done as you would wish.
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:43 AM   #2855
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I'm not venting and I'm not pissed off. But yes, I do like being a critic :d But I also consider myself a contributor (in areas I can be of use, which don't include scripting and hunting for jailbreak exploits) to MobileRead's Kindle subforum. If nothing else I periodically serve as "instructions parser for mere mortals" and "let me hunt down that info for your".
Example of contribution:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...79#post3473879


So no, you of all the people (with your always terse, and often confusing / to technical answers) don't get to accuse me of being lazy and not making any effort.

Just comparing your answer ( "(use) LibrarianSync.") and mine from the above example post (where both are answers to question from obviously very very new Kindle owner regarding collections management) makes my case.

To conclude : I've always appreciated your significant contribution to dev side of Kindle enhancement but at the same time don't appreciate your approach, your tone and your "style" of dealing with and answering questions asked by other (less experienced) users, which quite often approaches rudeness. And I see this last post addressed to me to be in the same exact "tradition".

You definitely will not chase me away from this MobileRead subforum with your attitude (after 7+ years here I'm used to everything and everyone) , but I bet you chased away quite a number of first time users.
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:14 PM   #2856
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I'm not venting and I'm not pissed off. But yes, I do like being a critic :d But I also consider myself a contributor (in areas I can be of use, which don't include scripting and hunting for jailbreak exploits) to MobileRead's Kindle subforum. If nothing else I periodically serve as "instructions parser for mere mortals" and "let me hunt down that info for your".
Example of contribution:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...79#post3473879


So no, you of all the people (with your always terse, and often confusing / to technical answers) don't get to accuse me of being lazy and not making any effort.

Just comparing your answer ( "(use) LibrarianSync.") and mine from the above example post (where both are answers to question from obviously very very new Kindle owner regarding collections management) makes my case.

To conclude : I've always appreciated your significant contribution to dev side of Kindle enhancement but at the same time don't appreciate your approach, your tone and your "style" of dealing with and answering questions asked by other (less experienced) users, which quite often approaches rudeness. And I see this last post addressed to me to be in the same exact "tradition".

You definitely will not chase me away from this MobileRead subforum with your attitude (after 7+ years here I'm used to everything and everyone) , but I bet you chased away quite a number of first time users.
I shall ask nicely.
Would you like to mod this sub-forum? If so then please let one of the green guys know.
That would be a great help.
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Old 11-16-2017, 03:32 PM   #2857
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Sorry, but I can't. Aside from the fact that I live in a significantly different time-zone than primary user groups (US people) here on MobileRead I also have some health issues that limit my daily "PC & keyboard time" thus I don't think it would be fair to assume a responsibility I know in advance I can't keep up with. And frankly speaking I don't need the extra stress

With that said I'll still try to help by answering question whenever I'm able.
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Sorry, but I can't. Aside from the fact that I live in a significantly different time-zone than primary user groups (US people) here on MobileRead I also have some health issues that limit my daily "PC & keyboard time" thus I don't think it would be fair to assume a responsibility I know in advance I can't keep up with. And frankly speaking I don't need the extra stress

With that said I'll still try to help by answering question whenever I'm able.
Aside from the fact that most posters here (in this forum) do not live in the US, but Asia, I understand the rest of your reasoning.
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Old 11-17-2017, 01:39 PM   #2859
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what a great resource you guys have here. thanks for your hard work. i guess i'll have to check in from time to time.

unfortunately, the refurbished KOA1 i received from Amazon was already updated to the latest 5.8.11. i

hope someone clever figures out how to jailbreak the later versions of firmware (or allows me to downgrade so i can do the jailbreak) at some point. for me, i would just enjoy putting up my own screen saver images.
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what a great resource you guys have here. thanks for your hard work. i guess i'll have to check in from time to time.

unfortunately, the refurbished KOA1 i received from Amazon was already updated to the latest 5.8.11. i

hope someone clever figures out how to jailbreak the later versions of firmware (or allows me to downgrade so i can do the jailbreak) at some point. for me, i would just enjoy putting up my own screen saver images.
That may not happen.
Amazon/Lab126 is making it increasingly difficult with each newer device announced.
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That may not happen.
Amazon/Lab126 is making it increasingly difficult with each newer device announced.
yeah. i'm was guessing that is probably the case. but i'll keep my eye here in case you brilliant folks come up with some solution.
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