Setting up new Kindle Touch; changeover from Kindle Keyboard - Page 3

mand · 10-29-2016, 12:23 PM

We've been at cross purposes. What you call a hub I call an adaptor (in #35), and I have one. That's ok then! I only wondered about safety because recalls tend to for safety issues and nothing else in my experience.

knc1 · 10-29-2016, 12:39 PM

This is what I call a hub:
https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Supe.../dp/B008ZGKWQI

or
https://www.amazon.com/Powered-Trans...N099SW7RB4F3K9

So they can be called either "hub" or "Adapter" (when they support charging high current devices).

Manufacturers of chips will recall them when they are found to be a defective design.
Not for safety, but to maintain their reputation for quality, rather than for the lack of it.

mand · 10-29-2016, 12:55 PM

Yeah, my brain was working slowly this afternoon.

I got this because I wanted to use my mouse at the same time as my portable hard drive. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aukey-4-Po...item3f5d7c7ec4

knc1 · 10-29-2016, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mand

Yeah, my brain was working slowly this afternoon.

I got this because I wanted to use my mouse at the same time as my portable hard drive. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aukey-4-Po...item3f5d7c7ec4

Try plugging the Kindle into that, it should be trouble free.

mand · 10-29-2016, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

Try plugging the Kindle into that, it should be trouble free.

Well in fact, the first time the laptop failed to recognise the kindle, it was with the hub/adaptor. I thought maybe that was the problem (backwards, I now know) and tried without it. Both times with the cable that came with the device. But later it worked ok... I'll try a few more times with and without, and with its own cable and my old cable - tomorrow, not tonight.

knc1 · 10-29-2016, 05:25 PM

Did the 'slowness' problem go away on its own?

mand · 10-29-2016, 05:46 PM

Sort of. It did with regard to page turns while in the home screen, but not if I tap-n-hold - the "dialog box" stays until I tap something else. The menu is most useful for getting rid of these.

I'm going to observe whether this only happens when there are things waiting to be indexed, now I know to look for those.

knc1 · 10-29-2016, 07:46 PM

That sounds like it is working normally.
Some of the dialog boxes are intended to remain visible until dismissed.

mand · 10-30-2016, 04:17 AM

No, I meant they don't go away when dismissed. The little X shows that I've tapped it, by going black, but the box stays there till I tap something else eg the menu or a book on the bit of list visible behind the box.

It's like a backlog of things to be redrawn, which don't get redrawn no matter how many page turns or close-box taps I enter, but the backlog suddenly catches up with itself when I open a different menu, a document, or a different dialog.

knc1 · 10-30-2016, 09:31 AM

Have not seen that problem since PW-1 days.
I do not have that problem on mine.

Mine:
Model: G000 KA
Firmware: 5.8.5
Build: (304830064)
Items on device: 45
Installed stuff: current Jail Break and kTerm (only).
Disabled: Voice View and Bluetooth, most of the time, Wifi Off (in Airplane mode).

Yours? (firmware detail from the "Device Info" panel).

= = = = =

You are correct, events are "queued" internally, but you should not notice it on a human time scale, only the cpu knows about that queue that keeps its actions organized.

mand · 10-30-2016, 04:53 PM

It must be me. I do this to things just by existing near them.

When being rational(!) I tend to assume it's because I over-fill things (folders, lists, directories...*) and/or clog them up with faster clicks/button-presses/taps than they can comfortably buffer. I once discovered the upper limit on the number of bookmarks in a version of some browser, I forget which, and I live with dozens (sometimes literally dozens) of tabs open. BUT... I'm not the only one in the world who does this. I can't be the only person who inputs commands quicker than they can be actioned, and I have trained myself out of it mainly, nowadays.

* ...handbags, bookcases, cardboard boxes, saucepans...

mand · 10-30-2016, 05:00 PM

Mine:
Model: G000 KA
Firmware: 5.8.5.0.1
Build: (3077520002)
Installed stuff: none
Disabled: Voice View and Bluetooth, most of the time, Wifi Off (in Airplane mode) - same as you but wifi is on and off, as I like accessing Wikipedia as well as the dictionary; doesn't seem to make a difference whether it's in aeroplane mode or not.

Items on device: 96
Available: 2,775 MB free

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

You are correct, events are "queued" internally, but you should not notice it on a human time scale, only the cpu knows about that queue that keeps its actions organized.

I can't remember ever using anything that had a chip inside without noticing it on a human time scale, after a few months if not a few days.

<- I need an :exasperated: emoticon instead of that!

mand · 10-30-2016, 05:02 PM

And with the battery fully charged, it's still happening.

By the way, can I assume this battery prefers to be overcharged, as I'm used to with the K3?

Cinisajoy · 10-30-2016, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mand

It must be me. I do this to things just by existing near them.

When being rational(!) I tend to assume it's because I over-fill things (folders, lists, directories...*) and/or clog them up with faster clicks/button-presses/taps than they can comfortably buffer. I once discovered the upper limit on the number of bookmarks in a version of some browser, I forget which, and I live with dozens (sometimes literally dozens) of tabs open. BUT... I'm not the only one in the world who does this. I can't be the only person who inputs commands quicker than they can be actioned, and I have trained myself out of it mainly, nowadays.

* ...handbags, bookcases, cardboard boxes, saucepans...

You have figured out how to overfill bookcases. Please share the method as I am resorting to boxes to store extra books.

Hope you and your kindle get along soon.

knc1 · 10-30-2016, 06:57 PM

Different firmware version.
That *.0.1 is suppose to mean they fixed something very minor, but it could be they messed something else up at the same time.
It has been known to happen all too often.

If you can live with it, I would wait and see if Amazon rolls out a *.0.2 to fix the fix.

10-29-2016, 05:46 PM	#37
mand Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wiltshire, UK Device: Kindle Paperwhite 7th gen; Kindle Keyboard; iRex iLiad	Sort of. It did with regard to page turns while in the home screen, but not if I tap-n-hold - the "dialog box" stays until I tap something else. The menu is most useful for getting rid of these. I'm going to observe whether this only happens when there are things waiting to be indexed, now I know to look for those. Last edited by mand; 10-30-2016 at 04:18 AM.

10-30-2016, 09:31 AM	#40
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Have not seen that problem since PW-1 days. I do not have that problem on mine. Mine: Model: G000 KA Firmware: 5.8.5 Build: (304830064) Items on device: 45 Installed stuff: current Jail Break and kTerm (only). Disabled: Voice View and Bluetooth, most of the time, Wifi Off (in Airplane mode). Yours? (firmware detail from the "Device Info" panel). = = = = = You are correct, events are "queued" internally, but you should not notice it on a human time scale, only the cpu knows about that queue that keeps its actions organized. Last edited by knc1; 10-30-2016 at 10:03 AM.

10-30-2016, 04:53 PM	#41
mand Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wiltshire, UK Device: Kindle Paperwhite 7th gen; Kindle Keyboard; iRex iLiad	It must be me. I do this to things just by existing near them. When being rational(!) I tend to assume it's because I over-fill things (folders, lists, directories...) and/or clog them up with faster clicks/button-presses/taps than they can comfortably buffer. I once discovered the upper limit on the number of bookmarks in a version of some browser, I forget which, and I live with dozens (sometimes literally dozens) of tabs open. BUT... I'm not the only one in the world who does this. I can't be the only person who inputs commands quicker than they can be actioned, and I have trained myself out of it mainly, nowadays. ...handbags, bookcases, cardboard boxes, saucepans... Last edited by mand; 10-30-2016 at 05:14 PM.

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10-29-2016, 12:23 PM	#31
mand Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wiltshire, UK Device: Kindle Paperwhite 7th gen; Kindle Keyboard; iRex iLiad	We've been at cross purposes. What you call a hub I call an adaptor (in #35), and I have one. That's ok then! I only wondered about safety because recalls tend to for safety issues and nothing else in my experience.

10-29-2016, 12:39 PM	#32
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	This is what I call a hub: https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Supe.../dp/B008ZGKWQI or https://www.amazon.com/Powered-Trans...N099SW7RB4F3K9 So they can be called either "hub" or "Adapter" (when they support charging high current devices). Manufacturers of chips will recall them when they are found to be a defective design. Not for safety, but to maintain their reputation for quality, rather than for the lack of it.

10-29-2016, 12:55 PM	#33
mand Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wiltshire, UK Device: Kindle Paperwhite 7th gen; Kindle Keyboard; iRex iLiad	Yeah, my brain was working slowly this afternoon. I got this because I wanted to use my mouse at the same time as my portable hard drive. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aukey-4-Po...item3f5d7c7ec4

10-29-2016, 05:25 PM	#36
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Did the 'slowness' problem go away on its own?

10-29-2016, 07:46 PM	#38
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	That sounds like it is working normally. Some of the dialog boxes are intended to remain visible until dismissed.

10-30-2016, 04:17 AM	#39
mand Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wiltshire, UK Device: Kindle Paperwhite 7th gen; Kindle Keyboard; iRex iLiad	No, I meant they don't go away when dismissed. The little X shows that I've tapped it, by going black, but the box stays there till I tap something else eg the menu or a book on the bit of list visible behind the box. It's like a backlog of things to be redrawn, which don't get redrawn no matter how many page turns or close-box taps I enter, but the backlog suddenly catches up with itself when I open a different menu, a document, or a different dialog.

10-30-2016, 05:02 PM	#43
mand Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wiltshire, UK Device: Kindle Paperwhite 7th gen; Kindle Keyboard; iRex iLiad	And with the battery fully charged, it's still happening. By the way, can I assume this battery prefers to be overcharged, as I'm used to with the K3?

10-30-2016, 06:57 PM	#45
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Different firmware version. That .0.1 is suppose to mean they fixed something very minor, but it could be they messed something else up at the same time. It has been known to happen all too often. If you can live with it, I would wait and see if Amazon rolls out a .0.2 to fix the fix.

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