iLiad My next porting project really bites! - Page 2

arivero · 11-15-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vranghel

What I'd really like to see is a working web browser. That would make the iLiad one of the coolest limited use UMPC on the block.

Er, now you can browse when the network is up, can you? Simple use the terminal aplication to call wired.sh start, or wireless.sh start (having a real network as Default, not the hack network, of course). I havent tried because I am sort of offline in this Solaris cluster.

You can use lynx

vranghel · 11-16-2006, 12:48 AM

Can you?

I didnt know it was still possible after the 2.4 version.

Even if it is, it is much to difficult for me right now, as my programming skills are zero (or NaN as some would say

)

Antartica · 11-16-2006, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by vranghel

Can you?

I didnt know it was still possible after the 2.4 version.

Even if it is, it is much to difficult for me right now, as my programming skills are zero (or NaN as some would say

)

I have compilled the dillo web browser for the iliad, but I'm short of time and didn't even tested it.

What I've not done is putting the appropiate calls to liberipc/liberdm. I would like to test if it works prior to start making modifications...

Just wait a couple of weeks and I hope to have had time to look at it (or at least try it).

Antartica.

P.S.: I've tested browsing the web using the included minimo and it doesn't fare very well. Wikipedia works, but mobileread doesn't. And is slooooooow. And crashes often. You should not use the "browser" in the 2.4 hack, as it adds further unstability (usually crashes after rendering the first page). But if you do an html file with a content like:

Code:

<html><head></head><body><a href="http://www.wikipedia.org">Go!</a></body></html>

and click it (after enabling your web access, of course), it's reasonable.
Ah! And remember to click often the "lock-keys" icon to make a fast refresh to the screen (usefull when you have clicked something in the page).

scotty1024 · 11-16-2006, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antartica

I have compilled the dillo web browser for the iliad, but I'm short of time and didn't even tested it.

What I've not done is putting the appropiate calls to liberipc/liberdm. I would like to test if it works prior to start making modifications...

I have a working dillo as a part of an RSS reader I have in the pipe. Give me a couple more days and I'll shoot you the source.

What I'd love to figure out is whether minimo is just unstable or if iRex made it unstable... it is using up one heck of a lot of the iLiad's internal storage and as far as I've seen it isn't justifying its existence.

CommanderROR · 11-16-2006, 06:50 AM

and the best part is that soon all those hungry 2.7.1 users will be able to use all these nice apps...:-)
I wonder when the notification will arrive that I can now download the .sh enabling iDs update...

arivero · 11-16-2006, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scotty1024

What I'd love to figure out is whether minimo is just unstable or if iRex made it unstable... it is using up one heck of a lot of the iLiad's internal storage and as far as I've seen it isn't justifying its existence.

It is unstable in the Nokia 770 already, and the iLiad browser departs even more, so guess...

nekokami · 11-16-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by vranghel

Pretty soon the reading function will be 'lost' among the great many applications.
It's not like a complain, i think it's great that we (i mean scotty and the others in the know-how) take advantage of the speedy processor, the touch screen and the (partly)closed code.

Reading online is still reading.

Anyway, the device is too expensive to be only a reader, though I think it is still great for that purpose. iRex opening up the install mechanism is a great move. If they could just get their DRM situation cleared up, I think they could really sell units.

nekokami · 11-17-2006, 08:38 PM

@Scotty1024, I noticed you started a thread about bluetooth keyboards to use with sylpheed-claws. Does that mean it doesn't accept scribble input, only the screen keyboard?

scotty1024 · 11-18-2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

@Scotty1024, I noticed you started a thread about bluetooth keyboards to use with sylpheed-claws. Does that mean it doesn't accept scribble input, only the screen keyboard?

You can scribble, you can tap. But to enter longer emails you start longing for a real keyboard, or at least I do.

You also get back a sizable chunk of screen real estate.

DHer · 11-18-2006, 03:29 AM

My personal favourite would be actually http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/30/e...e-in-the-wild/

It's an prototype for a cover seconding as keyboard. And it's with usb plug, so it's only one hid kernel module away.

scotty1024 · 11-18-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DHer

It's an prototype for a cover seconding as keyboard. And it's with usb plug, so it's only one hid kernel module away.

You would like to think its one module away, but alas it isn't.

I experimented with grabbing Zaurus and iPaq loadable modules. But iRex compiled the iLiad's kernel with some curious choices as to what got compiled in.

These choices mean we have to have our own loadable modules, and even a simple USB keyboard requires more than one module to get it running.

One thing that is only a single module away is CDROM/DVD support. I've plugged in a DVD drive and mounted a FAT32 CD-R I cut just so I could prove it worked.

The iLiad ships without ISO-9660 support, this is another module I intend to get working. (ISO-9660 is the standard filesystem for CD's) I figure myself and/or someone else will be creating a Linux iLiad distro sometime soon. It will be useful to be able to mount a CD directly to install tools off a distro CD.

DHer · 11-18-2006, 11:36 AM

hm. that's depressing.

But an USB DVD drive, that's neat.

arivero · 11-18-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty1024

These choices mean we have to have our own loadable modules, and even a simple USB keyboard requires more than one module to get it running.

for the usb mouse there was two options in old linux kernels: either the usbmouse module or the hid module. The point is that USB keyboards and mouses are supposed to come in two flavours: Boot and HID-Report. The Boot devices do not Report its configuration and the driver needs to use one by default. This is whan usbmouse was for, and it should be also a "usbkeyboard" around. On the other hand, HID-reported drivers are able to understand any input device.

I guess I am not telling anything you have not learn already! But just in case.

arivero · 11-18-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

. Does that mean it doesn't accept scribble input, only the screen keyboard?

Well, you can always attach the scribble input as an image. Funny to send email handwritten.

henkvdg · 11-18-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by arivero

Well, you can always attach the scribble input as an image. Funny to send email handwritten.

Yes, but very much more personal :-)

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11-16-2006, 12:48 AM	#17
vranghel Addict Posts: 285 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Device: Proud Iliad owner	Can you? I didnt know it was still possible after the 2.4 version. Even if it is, it is much to difficult for me right now, as my programming skills are zero (or NaN as some would say )

11-16-2006, 06:50 AM	#20
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	and the best part is that soon all those hungry 2.7.1 users will be able to use all these nice apps...:-) I wonder when the notification will arrive that I can now download the .sh enabling iDs update...

11-17-2006, 08:38 PM	#23
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	@Scotty1024, I noticed you started a thread about bluetooth keyboards to use with sylpheed-claws. Does that mean it doesn't accept scribble input, only the screen keyboard?

11-18-2006, 03:29 AM	#25
DHer Addict Posts: 261 Karma: 156 Join Date: Jul 2006 Device: iliad	My personal favourite would be actually http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/30/e...e-in-the-wild/ It's an prototype for a cover seconding as keyboard. And it's with usb plug, so it's only one hid kernel module away.

11-18-2006, 11:36 AM	#27
DHer Addict Posts: 261 Karma: 156 Join Date: Jul 2006 Device: iliad	hm. that's depressing. But an USB DVD drive, that's neat.

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