Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > News

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-25-2025, 05:42 PM   #1
ownedbycats
Custom User Title
ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
ownedbycats's Avatar
 
Posts: 10,333
Karma: 73404781
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Canada
Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD
Lightbulb Canadian authors warn readers that AI dupes of their books are popping up on Amazon

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...azon-1.7441183

Quote:
Toronto author Catherine Tsalikis rushed the release of her Chrystia Freeland biography right before Christmas after the deputy prime minister's sudden resignation.

Tsalikis was checking Amazon to see how the launch was going for Chrystia: From Peace River to Parliament Hill when she noticed something odd.

Right below her book, which was published by House of Anansi Press, another book was a shadow of the real thing.

The cover featured an image of a Freeland lookalike. The author shared Tsalikis's first name.

The title? Chrystia from Peace River: A Small-Town Girl's Journey to Parliament Hill.

After reading the book's preview, Tsalikis concluded it was written by artificial intelligence.

"It's a weird mirror image, like a refracted image of my words," Tsalikis said in an interview.

"The sentiment is the same, but the words are different."

It's one example of many, according to Canadian authors and advocates. The AI dupes can be easy to spot for those who know the signs, but they speak to the health of the online marketplace for publishing.

Further down in the article, someone suggests the federal government mandating an AI-generated content label. Yeah, good luck with that.
ownedbycats is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2025, 08:03 PM   #2
Deskisamess
Wizard
Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Deskisamess ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Deskisamess's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,732
Karma: 45300001
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ohio
Device: iPhone 7+, iPad mini, 2021 iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8"
Quote:
The AI dupes can be easy to spot for those who know the signs, but they speak to the health of the online marketplace for publishing
I'd love to know more. I read a book, or read about half of the book, a few months ago that I'm fairly sure was AI generated. There were odd words and phrases used for fairly common items. The setting of the book was in Amish Country in Ohio. Instead of the word "buggy", the phrase "horse car" was used. A "lunch box" was called "a meal pack."

I'd love to hear what other clues to watch for.

Last edited by Deskisamess; 01-25-2025 at 08:03 PM. Reason: Spelling
Deskisamess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2025, 04:37 AM   #3
pdurrant
The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠
pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.pdurrant ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
pdurrant's Avatar
 
Posts: 73,416
Karma: 314930086
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Norfolk, England
Device: Kindle Oasis
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deskisamess View Post
I'd love to know more. I read a book, or read about half of the book, a few months ago that I'm fairly sure was AI generated. There were odd words and phrases used for fairly common items. The setting of the book was in Amish Country in Ohio. Instead of the word "buggy", the phrase "horse car" was used. A "lunch box" was called "a meal pack."

I'd love to hear what other clues to watch for.
I would not expect to see unusual word choices in AI generated text. Generative AI produces common word choices, not unusual ones, pretty much by definition.
pdurrant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2025, 10:49 AM   #4
ekbell
Guru
ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ekbell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 625
Karma: 12345678
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Canada
Device: none
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deskisamess View Post
I'd love to know more. I read a book, or read about half of the book, a few months ago that I'm fairly sure was AI generated. There were odd words and phrases used for fairly common items. The setting of the book was in Amish Country in Ohio. Instead of the word "buggy", the phrase "horse car" was used. A "lunch box" was called "a meal pack."

I'd love to hear what other clues to watch for.
Odd word choices like that sound more like a sub-par translation from another language then AI.
ekbell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2025, 12:39 PM   #5
Quoth
Still reading
Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Quoth's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,438
Karma: 102739837
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper
AI has no sense of context. It's dumb plagiarism and pattern matching, so you can get phrases that are not odd in a different context.

It won't know if biscuits in the source are the US kind, which are a kind of Scottish scone, or if they are UK/Irish biscuits.
Quoth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2025, 05:12 PM   #6
JSWolf
Resident Curmudgeon
JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.JSWolf ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
JSWolf's Avatar
 
Posts: 78,486
Karma: 142993688
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quoth View Post
AI has no sense of context. It's dumb plagiarism and pattern matching, so you can get phrases that are not odd in a different context.

It won't know if biscuits in the source are the US kind, which are a kind of Scottish scone, or if they are UK/Irish biscuits.
In the US you get biscuits are KFC. They are not much different from scones.

What the UK calls biscuits are really cookies.
JSWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2025, 08:38 PM   #7
Hasdrubal_Lector
Member
Hasdrubal_Lector began at the beginning.
 
Hasdrubal_Lector's Avatar
 
Posts: 16
Karma: 10
Join Date: Dec 2024
Location: Mid-Atlantic Region
Device: Nook Simple Touch, Kobo Libra 2, iPad 8
I think Canadians use cookie and biscuit like the Americans, not the Britons. Different languages use different words for things. US-English is a separate language from UK-English. They are daughters of the same mother, but not twins, not at all. Would an AI mash up the languages? Sure. Would an AI mash up regional differences, like lunch box or lunch pail, teapot or tea kettle, Sit a while or set a spell? I'm guessing yes.

Before objecting,consider that a language is a dialect with an army and a navy.
Hasdrubal_Lector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2025, 11:03 PM   #8
DNSB
Bibliophagist
DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DNSB ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DNSB's Avatar
 
Posts: 43,482
Karma: 165170834
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
Canadians mostly use cookie and biscuit like Americans. OTOH, you will also hear biscuit used for cookie courtesy of the French language influence where a cookie can be a biscuit, a petit gâteau (sec) or (especially for chocolate chip and similar) cookie. Then you have sablé used for short-bread (after their sandy texture), etc.

Britain and America are two countries separated by a common language.

And contrary, to JSWolf's belief, American usage is not the correct usage but simply an alternative usage.
DNSB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2025, 08:19 AM   #9
Quoth
Still reading
Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Quoth's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,438
Karma: 102739837
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSWolf View Post

What the UK calls biscuits are really cookies.
No, UK & Ireland (and continent now) has also USA cookies. UK & Irish Biscuits are unrelated (some invented in Dublin). Different recipe and cooking and many are hard to do at home. Cookies are pretty easy to do.

I'll demonstrate (scones, drop-scones=Scottish pancakes, cookies, US & English muffins (unrelated), buns, cup-cakes, fairy-cakes and biscuits anytime you are transiting Shannon and have a few hours to kill. You might like the library, workshop and scenery too. We serve Yorkshire tea and Italian coffee (filter, cafetiere, moka, mud or espresso). Herbal infusions too.

I've worked in USA (NY, Boston, Ohio) so I know the actual US in USA kinds.
Quoth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2025, 12:22 PM   #10
j.p.s
Grand Sorcerer
j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 5,673
Karma: 103020299
Join Date: Apr 2011
Device: pb360
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasdrubal_Lector View Post
Would an AI mash up regional differences, like lunch box or lunch pail, teapot or tea kettle, Sit a while or set a spell? I'm guessing yes.
In the US there have been many decades with large numbers of families moving from region to region, students going to university out of state, and national television shows that ordinary conversation mashes up regional differences.
j.p.s is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2025, 02:20 PM   #11
Quoth
Still reading
Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Quoth's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,438
Karma: 102739837
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper
Oreos are a bit like some very inferior UK biscuits.
Quoth is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Merge books keeps popping up emphyrion Calibre 2 06-16-2020 05:37 AM
E-readers 'damage sleep and health,' doctors warn Halk News 187 01-05-2015 10:19 AM
Calibre crashes on dupes reports page after importing new books juneloon Library Management 0 03-09-2014 12:14 AM
Amazon (w/ Macmillan) to pay authors royalties for books not sold Daithi News 15 02-04-2011 07:24 PM
Free Kindle Books for Amazon UK readers greencat Deals and Resources (No Self-Promotion or Affiliate Links) 15 08-07-2010 11:56 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:50 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.