Artemis

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Yes, those are all spoilers to someone who has not read the book. Sorry if you feel spoiling a book for others is OK. But it's not and you are lax in your job by allowing this.

How about this. If you're that sensitive to what you feel are spoilers maybe don't open a thread talking about the book at all?


As far as I'm concerned they're not spoilers.

[kyteflyer]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

[melmac]

I was disappointed in Artemis I think perhaps Weir should stick to a male protagonist, Jazz read like a male fantasy of a woman's thoughts & behaviour. Hoping his next effort is better.

[JSWolf]

I'm disappointed in the fonts embedded. They are awful.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm disappointed in the fonts embedded. They are awful.

Again with the fonts? Really? You've spoken your mind on this subject in this thread. Does it really have to be brought up again?

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by melmac

I was disappointed in Artemis I think perhaps Weir should stick to a male protagonist, Jazz read like a male fantasy of a woman's thoughts & behaviour. Hoping his next effort is better.

I still enjoyed the book, but I tend to agree. Her banter and external dialogue with others was fine (IMO). But her internalized conversations with herself felt weird. Even if lots of other people tell them they're gorgeous and/or sexy, I find it hard to believe that even the most confident individuals talk to themselves about how gorgeous and sexy they are. All. The. Time.

[BenG]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I find it hard to believe that even the most confident individuals talk to themselves about how gorgeous and sexy they are. All. The. Time.

Of course we do.

[Dazrin]

Originally Posted by Dazrin

Somehow I missed this in my library's queue...I am number #67 on one list and #242 on another. Doh!

Both libraries ended up getting more copies (32 at one and 72 at the other, was less than 1/2 of that), so I got this a few days ago and finished tonight.

I enjoyed it but not nearly as much as The Martian. Jazz just wasn't very likeable and the info-dumps were jarring. I do look forward to whatever he comes up with next though.

[Shack70]

I just finished the book. Even though I enjoyed it, it wasn't as good as The Martian. Artemis was a quick and fun read. I'm looking forward to the next book from Mr. Weir.

[PKFFW]

The biggest problem for me was that I felt Weir tried a little too hard to find reasons to put technical/scientific stuff in where it didn't add anything to the story. It felt like he was trying to recreate the feel of The Martian. Of course the science was a big part of what drove the story of The Martian where as in Artemis there was just no real need for it.

Have to agree with others in that I didn't care much for Jazz and I really didn't really care one way or another if things worked out. I also agree that she didn't feel at all believable as a female character.

Overall I didn't think too much of it.

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by PKFFW

The biggest problem for me was that I felt Weir tried a little too hard to find reasons to put technical/scientific stuff in where it didn't add anything to the story. It felt like he was trying to recreate the feel of The Martian. Of course the science was a big part of what drove the story of The Martian where as in Artemis there was just no real need for it.

Have to agree with others in that I didn't care much for Jazz and I really didn't really care one way or another if things worked out. I also agree that she didn't feel at all believable as a female character.

Overall I didn't think too much of it.

It's fairly common for a novelist to try to re-create the feel of a big hit. Most novelist tend to either get past that and grow or they fall by the way side. I do think that writers do tend to have specific characteristics that is common in their works, in the computer world it's called a look and feel. I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing.

[gmw]

Originally Posted by pwalker8

It's fairly common for a novelist to try to re-create the feel of a big hit. Most novelist tend to either get past that and grow or they fall by the way side. I do think that writers do tend to have specific characteristics that is common in their works, in the computer world it's called a look and feel. I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing.

With writers it's called "voice". It can be a strange thing ... not unlike what you see among actors.

Some actors always produce the same character; some actors are such chameleons that they can be hard to pick out (curiously, this great skill is not necessarily a good thing for fame and fortune); other actors retain something distinctive while still managing to fit different roles. We watched "The King's Speech" again last night: Helena Bonham Carter fascinates me, from Jane in The Theory of Flight, to Beatrix in Harry Potter to the Queen Mum in The King's Speech, all such different roles, and all so perfectly matched by Helena, and yet still there is something distinctively her about all of them.

You see the same gamut run by writers. Some always produce what feels like the same story, others produce such different work that they're difficult to pick out, while others manage to be distinctive while being different. One that stands out for me is Neil Gaiman. Here is a writer that tackles a wide range of stories, each wonderfully and appropriately done, and yet he still manages to sound like Neil Gaiman. (As you can tell, I admire him a lot, even if I don't necessarily love everything he's written.)

I'm guessing Andy Weir is still trying to find his voice ... most of us are.

[PKFFW]

Originally Posted by pwalker8

It's fairly common for a novelist to try to re-create the feel of a big hit. Most novelist tend to either get past that and grow or they fall by the way side. I do think that writers do tend to have specific characteristics that is common in their works, in the computer world it's called a look and feel. I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing.

I know what you mean. The problem for me with Artemis was that it just seemed so forced and obvious and really served no purpose to the story. Of course, that's just my opinion though and others may see it entirely differently.

[bgalbrecht]

Never mind.